I have 5 or 6 citrus trees for trade. There is a mix of grapefruit, orange, and lemon. I do not know which is which. The trees are at least 2 years old, possibly a bit older. I would like to trade all of these to one person. I would like to trade for things on my want list but can be tempted very easily, let me know what you have.
CLOSED: Have 5 or 6 Citrus Trees for Trade
Do you know what variety they are?
I have lemon lilys, which are blooming now.
Sorry, I do not know what variety the citrus trees are.
sent you Dmail.
Bill
Just remember: you can NOT ship your citrus trees into FLORIDA. That is patently ILLEGAL and if you get caught you will be prosecuted.
I'm in North Carolina, no jail time trading to me.
Bill
The concern here is that there are currently some devastating diseases affecting Citrus that are spreading throughout the US. I know that the CRFG publication had a big article about one of them in their most recent issue. The plea is that hobbyists should not be trading Citrus plant material around, as it is very hard to prevent spread of some of the diseases. The one the CRFG was talking about has no cure except destruction of all affected materials, and as there is an insect vector involved that is spread with plant material, once an area is contaminated, it is very difficult to clean up. The plea also was for using sources of material that are certified as disease free. I'll try to find the article again, as there were some links published with more information.
Yes, its just NOT A GOOD IDEA to trade citrus of any kind. In states that grow citrus as a food crop for everyone else (Texas, California and Florida) its a FEDERAL OFFENSE to send citrus from somewhere else (that's not from a documented certified licensed etc etc etc citrus grower and supplier and that hasn't been inspected and treated out the wazoo)across their state lines, and you should never export from there to other states either.
If you want to continue to enjoy reasonable priced citrus of all kinds, not to mention a wide variety of other fruits and vegetables and nuts, you need to start observing the Agricultural laws of the country. Certain states should NEVER have 'backyard gardeners' trade any plant materials between them...namely CA, TX, LA, HI, AZ and the territory of Puerto Rico.
Ok. You win. The citrus trees aren't going anywhere. I had no idea about all of the controversy. This was to be my first plant trade. I had no idea it was so difficult. I couldn't find anything on google about what plants can or cannot go where. Any help with that would be appreciated. Thank you for all the info.
This message was edited Apr 27, 2009 11:44 PM
I visited the National Plant Board website and found the following statement:
"Before selling or sending plants, nursery stock or similar commodities visit http://www.nationalplantboard.org/laws/ and review the State Summary of Plant Protection Regulations for the state to which you are considering shipping material. In many cases a restricted or quarantined commodity can be shipped if certain criteria are met; for instance, an inspection by your local department of agriculture may permit you to ship a quarantined product under certification."
This message was edited Apr 28, 2009 12:35 AM
I'm going to call one of my local representatives for more information.
Thank you for the link BrightStar, and the info.
Yes in some cases you can get a phytosanitary certificate in order to send restricted plants. But, in FL that would cost me about $35+ . Not worth it. The cost varies by state.
antinmypants-
just reading this post today...
I'm left with a feeling of sympathy. While all this may be true about citrus, I'm so very sorry that this was your first experience with trading. What a sour taste this must have left "in your mouth".
Please realize that trading can be lots of fun, and normally can even lead to friendships.
Welcome to the trading forum. And, welcome to daves!
((hugs))
I'm sure someone would love to have those citrus, and what a fantastic offer. Most people do not offer such nice things for trade :0)
I hope this does not quell your enthusiasm or desire to participate in this and other forums. This can be a warm and wonderful site to belong to.
I'm sure that maybe a local friend or neighbor would be happy to trade with you?
I've met lots of nice people locally simply by knocking on their door to compliment their garden or ask for the name of the plant. Usually they are so friendly and happy to talk plants that they end up sending me away with a few starts, too! :0)
One time a lady had some gorgeous iris, and I was able to strike a trade with some bulbs I had, that she wanted, in exchange. Maybe you could do something similar with your citrus.
You might even try your local craigslist in the barter section.
-Taylor
Hello Everyone,
Just wanted to let you all know that I am not upset about this & I have not been discouraged from trading.
I am greatful for all of the information & concern. I really had no idea about the rules & regulations of trading in other states & am really glad that all of you brought this to my attention BEFORE I got into trouble.
Thank you for the links also. I will be doing a lot of reading.
I chose the citrus trees to trade because I feel bad for them having to live somewhere where they have to struggle to live & I will likely never see them set fruit. Sounds silly, I know. To a lot of people plants are just plants, but to me they are living beings and deserve a good life. I even feel bad about plucking the weeds out of my garden!
It was never my intent to discourage anyone from trading. My intent was to put the info out there that yes, there are rules and regulations about sending plants to different places, across state lines, and that yes, people do get caught (I know of several different people who have either had plants confiscated, or received warnings/citations from the USDA, and there was one highly publicized case a few years ago of a person who had the 'plant police' actually come to his door, take his plant, and give him a citation. How did they know he had a possibly illegal plant? They were watching him, as he bought it off of eBay. They do have 'spies' on sites like that, and they look for keywords and track certain things (citrus is one of them, by the way).
These are incidents where the law can sometimes have gray areas, as I myself found out a few years ago when I got a 'warning' from the state of California about a plant I had sent to someone. I thought I was following the law, only to find out, the law had CHANGED and where the plant I had sent would have been legal the year before, with the new revised code, it had become illegal.
Its true that they do not always have the manpower to enforce these laws each and every time, but, when they do, these are very easily prosecutable crimes.
Also, its just a matter of doing the right thing. Look at the state of Florida as an example of what can happen when things get introduced from somewhere else, get a toehold, and multiply. Especially SOUTH Florida, where there are so many exotic invasives, both plant and animal, that its not even funny. And some new plant diseases, like the Cycad Scale, for instance, or the Red Palm Mite, are threatening to wipe out populations of plants that have been in the landscape for 20-30+ years.
Just be careful with what you do, and please, if you live in a state that is quarantined for the Imported Fire Ant, don;t send SOIL to anyone else out of your state. That is a very big no-no.
Just out of curiosity, if you CAN send a plant but you can't send the soil due to plant laws...I guess you can send the plant bare-root, meaning wash all the soil off. Am I right or is there a secret to this? A secret gelatin mix to put the roots in?
Come on! Spill it! Is there a secret to all this?
Yes, you have to completely wash all the soil off. Then you can wrap the roots in either wet paper or in damp sphagnum moss.
Almost the entire Southern tier of the USA, including some isolated counties in the West as far as CA, is on the Federal Quarantine list for IFAS (Imported Fire Ant). These are the states that cannot ship soil, for fear of shipping ants or their eggs, to places that don't have them. Most of the Northern states are considered too cold for these ants to get established, but, nature has remarkable ways of evolving and adapting. If you have ever stepped in a fire any bed and been decimated by a hundred simultaneous stings, you know why you do not want these ants if you don't already have them.
When I had my nursery business, the USDA field inspector for my area told me that in Arizona, they are so strict about IFAS that when trucks carrying nursery stock come across the border, they make them stop and they bait the trucks with containers of sugar water. If even a single ant is found, the entire shipment is either turned back or destroyed. Arizona, by the way, requires a phytosanitary certificate for EVERYTHING sent into their state, no matter the source (commercial or private) from any state. Their restrictions are so convoluted and involved its impossible to know what could be legal, but I know that nothing from FL can be shipped there without inspection and paper documentation. California is right behind them.
This is a good link about the citrus quarantine-
http://www.saveourcitrus.org/
On the right side you can click on specific states for quarantine information.
Well, now we all know. So...I couldn't interest anyone in some chameleon plant, could I?
Just kidding...