Help. Want flowering vine to grow around and up my front porch. The porch is 40' long, 9' deep. There is an enclosed trellis to hide under the porch. The distance from the ground to the railing top is almost 8 1/2 feet tall. But, from the railing top to the roof is a little over four feet. So I would like a vine that can grow about 13 ft. I'm not sure if a Clematis can grow that tall. I know some climbing roses can growe that tall, but am concerned about my porch structure. I even thought of Wisteria which would be beautiful, but am concerned about their large trunks playing havoc on my porch structure. I have five structure posts that I guess I could grow tall rose climbers on at the base of just those and mix with the Clematis in between. Then the Clematis could just grow up to the top of the railing. Am I making sense? I live in the western mountains of NC in Zone 7. Thank you!.
Clematis or climbing roses?
Hi, Taffy: I know just where you are, because I have a cousin in Zirconia! I think the wisteria is not an option. It will eat your house. Check out the heights of the various climbing roses before planting and do incorporate some Clematis among them. There are varying height Clematis as well. I have C. jackmanii in Asheville and it would grow very tall if I had a trellis tall enough, so I know it's a vigorous climber and the blooms are such a lovely deep blue, almost purple. Would be gorgeous with a pink or yellow climber.
Angie
Clematis vs. roses? Why not both? I've a rose arbor in the front that I've been working with the past 4-5 years.
The over all picture is this:
1. We need a beautiful roses that enhances the view of the front of the house, but;
a) We also wanted a sitting varanda below so we don't want a rose with too many thorns.
b) Reblooming roses? For climbers? I would love to find one. But how are we climbing the 9' tall structure - to prune them? I'm afraid of height. lol.
c) Clematis such as Jackmanii, needs pruning.
d) SAC is beautiful, vigorous grower but they are too wild will 'eat' any other roses in the same area.
So I settled for; Cecile Brunner climbing roses, various hybrids clems, and a few other climbing roses interplanted away from the sitting area such as climbing peace (thorny), and climbing Blaze (very thorny).
Have fun, and good lucks. Happy spring.
Kim
taffy, go for both clem and rose. will be beautiful. lily, good suggestions.
Thank you for all you advice. I think I will plant both. And not Wisteria! Wow-someone who also lives in Zirconia-How neat!!
I can vouch for New Dawn having wicked thorns, but with some research you can find climbers with few thorns. At least one of my rose books indicates thorniness. Now, if I can remember which book it is, I'll post a few suggestions. Give me a couple of days.
taffy, climbing rose Zephirine Drouhan is entirely thornless, has an intense deep pink color, and a heavenly scent. If you keep it fed, it will rebloom. http://www.helpmefind.com/plant/l.php?l=21.106956 Plant it with rich wine red Niobe clematis. http://www.helpmefind.com/plant/l.php?l=21.96507 I saw a photo of this combination in a gardening book years ago. I can't remember the title of the book, but I never forgot what a beautiful pairing this was.
Uh-oh. Hmmmmm, let's try this again, taffy. This is Niobe, paired here with a pale pink rose: http://www.helpmefind.com/plant/l.php?l=21.109672 The link in my previous post is not Niobe at all, but some other clematis inserted under Niobe in error at HelpMeFind.
winterrobin, such a nice display of niobe with the rose. i love niobe. thanks for sharing.
Here is another possibility: Blue and bright, bright shade of pink combo. ^_^
WOW, that picture of your Clematis and Rose takes my breath away!
For smaller, eye-level combo. Here is another example. Thanks for the compliment Shirley.
Yes, indeedy! Roses and clemantis are beautiful together. Also--if you want to add another vine into the mix--why not try Caroline Jasmine? (Also called Confederate Jasmine). Lovely white blossoms and wonderful scent. Also the jasmine blooms late into the summer.
sounds divine, hardy for what zone? or buy and grow as an annual in colder zones?
Carolina Jessamine and Confederate Jasmine are different vines -
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/132696/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/55230/
I wouldn't dream of interplanting my clematis with Jasmine. Jasmines are so prolific habit, will overpower my clematis? And vice versa. I'd separate the two if I were to have both. Just my preference.
love the idea of the fragrance. up here it woul probably be an annual and not over take the clem.
Once upon a time, I had Sweet Autumn Clematis intertwinned my Cecile Brunner roses. And when I need to separate the two, it was a nightmare. So, easy does it -- is my recommendation. I said my share of opnion, I here by exist the thread. Wishing you the best, happy gardening.
Kim
well terniflora is too vigorous for a rose, in my non rose expert experience. by the time i get all my clems in, it may be warm enough to consider annuals with them. but now i ae a lot of 4 to 8 year old clems so nothing looks empty.
i used to grow some annuals on my clem structures when the clems were very small and it looked odd. i used
thunbergia (common yellow) and the grandiflora types from Logees, morning glories (still have to week out seedlings 2 years later), mandevilles, and some assorted other vines that would die out in the fall weather.
getting something very fragrant in each garden has a big appeal. will have my thinking cap on and if i do anything post photo here alter in summer.