Starting from seed?

Calgary, AB(Zone 3a)

I just rec'd a notice of a seed sale at a garden centre in Canada - They have a lot of clematis seed.
Do any of you have experience starting from seed and what is the procedure and how long does it take?

http://gardensnorth.com/site/

Delaware, OH

hybrids do not seed true. can take a year or two to germinate.
species clems seed better and faster.

that is all i know.

sounds like fun.

most people that grow from seeds grow on in pots till they bloom in year 2 and then decide if they want to trash or plant out.

keep us posted. would love to know more.

I bought Clematis tangutica 'Radar Love' seeds from Park Seed Co. this year and surfaced sowed them 2/17/09 in fine seeding mix. Since they needed stratification (cold treatment) I put the flat in my unheated garage for 2 weeks. Then in the house and placed the flat on my window sill where it is cool. I sowed 10 seeds out of the 25 that came in the package.

Out of those 10, 2 sprouted on 3/20. I lost one. The one remaining is now growing in a 3" pot and is 4" tall. I'm still waiting on the other 8 seeds to sprout. It can take 50+ days to sprout. I am going to baby this one.

Clematis are not easy to germinate because they need flunctuating temps. It is recommended that they are sown in the fall for spring germination. This is what I will do with the other seeds I have left. Will put the seeding flat in my coldframe and let Nature work on them.

Caption: Here is the 'Radar Love' photo taken today.

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Delaware, OH

nice seedling there. i have heard some clems can take up to a year to germinate, don't know if you have that kind of patience. i bought some radar love seeds myself and have them in the frig and plan to plant them in a few days. will post days to germination, or if they germinate.

Mona in Metcalfe, ON(Zone 5a)

got seeds for fall clematis wondering if the germination is the same
will have to do some research

Ottawa, ON(Zone 5a)

I was just referred over here when I asked about seeds on another thread. I found mature seeds on one of my plants when I started to assess what needed to be pruned off it.

Does anyone know of any particulars which are likely to speed germination - temperature, moisture, etc? Would I be better off to try starting them indoors?

Ann

Delaware, OH

best to germinate outside and realize can take up to 1 year. cultivars will not/ may not be true and it takes up to 2 years to see mature flowers from one of your "babies". for those with patience, FUN!

Delaware, OH

best to germinate outside and realize can take up to 1 year. cultivars will not/ may not be true and it takes up to 2 years to see mature flowers form one of you "babies". for those with patience, FUN!

Ottawa, ON(Zone 5a)

Is the reason for germinating outside to give them cooler conditions? If so, mine overwintered on the plant and will have had their cold treatment. I have several. Maybe I'll try them in different conditions. I tend to lose seeds started in the garden.

Delaware, OH

yes they do need the cold season, but with the long germination they may be better off outside, i am not a germinating expert however. don't have 2 yrs patience!

Mona in Metcalfe, ON(Zone 5a)

I read somewhere that if you take of a bit of the shell and soak it in water for a few hours that they come up a lot quicker so I am trying that this week with the fall clematis seed I recieved last week to see if that works better since I have not been very lucky in growing them in the past

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

scicciarella, in your cooler zone, I bet if you just scatter the seeds out to an open area and mark them. Since they need a period of cold stratification. Now is the time for you to get those going. I've stray seedlings of these vines all over the garden after I took the parent vines off of the arbor year before last.

Mona in Metcalfe, ON(Zone 5a)

actually I did that for years and never got one plant hahahahah even tried planting the seeds in the fall and tried leaving them on the plant and planting them in the spring and nothing nothing nothing hahahahhah

Delaware, OH

in my experience the species types will self seed easily. i have terniflora coming up all over my property and this year "my angel" has self seeded and or layered like crazy..i may have 100 0f them. they are all in mostly one areas, and while taking over another's space, they are welcome to flourish where they are. but i kill the terniflora like crazy, moving a few and potting up a few for folks.

i have never had other clems self seed. but i keep the garden pruned and cleaned, with paths heavily mulched, so perhaps they wood if there were more opportunity? would love to get some other types self seeding......

Mona in Metcalfe, ON(Zone 5a)

that is the only autumn one available in my area will try the seeds for the other one and see what happens since I am out in the country if it self seeds its not a bad thing will pot them up and sell them at the plant sale lol

Delaware, OH

ok to sell species clems you grow. but the named and registered cultivars are restricted from this type of propagation and commerce, unless royalties are paid. i'd be happy to save you some paul farges seed this fall (IF YOU REMIND ME) as it is a species.

Delray Beach, FL(Zone 10b)

I also saw some radar love seeds, but didn't get them. Maybe I will. I came up with a portable cold frame for the winter. (Actually, a wood frame and discarded storm window.) I have already set aside some of the perennial seeds that didn't start well, such as oriental poppies, to try winter sowing. I will have to find some clematis seeds to try at the same time. It is so much fun to start things from seed, and a good cure for the late winter blues.

Delray Beach, FL(Zone 10b)

Found a good link with lots of information on starting seeds, hybridizing, and clems.

http://www.bcollingwood.com/Germination.htm

Love the internet. Gives me something to do on a rainy day (other than housework) while I wait for the paint to dry in the kitchen. When not gardening or working, I am sprucing up my place.

Mona in Metcalfe, ON(Zone 5a)

I have some clematis seeds and now I am ready to start them it may take two years but I have lots of patience

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