I've had this hoya for about a year and after seeing Carol's plant with
the same name, I now know mine is not what I thought.
Anyone care to guess based on leaves only ? no flowers yet....
Paula
ID ideas ??
Here's a close up of a leaf...
And here's another I'm now doubting, again no flowers yet....
Paula...looks to me like what i have as H. citrina or what might be H. glabra...or....? later will find some identifiers to compare....
Paula, it looks just like my H. citrina, which is temporarily, (I hope) missing in action! I've been moving plants back outside the past few days and I can't find this one! I'm sure it's hiding amidst other plants somewhere and this afternoon as I get organized, I will be on a mission to find it!
H. citrina is from a cutting I got in the DL co-op last spring. This is a picture from last August. What do you think? To my eyes it looks very much like your plant.
That was an idea I had also, but the growth habit looks very different to me. These
leaves do not hang at all - they reach up and most of them fold in the center.
Check out this link I found - you'll find one halfway down the page called H. sp Sulawesi GPS 8867 -
it's a dead ringer for my plant...
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/hoya/msg111807125066.html
Paula,
For what I read, she got them from Paul Shirley, he has some that are wrongly labeled. Some of my friends from Spain, have complaint about that. In fact one of them bought one labeled as H. krinkle 8 variegated, and got a H.compacta variegated. I'm not saying all are wrong, but there is a chance.
The first one looks to me like my H. citrina. And the second one like my H. fungii but remember, I really don't know much.
Un beso
Lourdes
Yeah - I know it's all a big mess. I've been researching and many others have photos labeled as H. subquintuplinervis, as mine is labeled, and the plant looks JUST like mine.
But Carol's H. subquintuplinervis is NOT what mine is.
I just want to know the 'real' name of what I have is......
Maybe we'll figure out this mystery because it seems like there is a mix of people who have the plant I have and have it labeled as H. subquintuplinervis and many others have the plant Carol has and it is labeled as H. subquintuplinervis - which I'm sure is the REAL H. subquintuplinervis.
Whooo - did I confuse anyone yet ?
^_^ Paula
Paula, your plant looks a lot like Hoya pottsii from Chiang Mai, which has often been labeled as H. subquintuplinervis.
Mmm - interesting. I'll keep hoping that it flowers soon.
I couldn't find many references on this hoya - is it not widely circulated ?
And I was wondering if the one labeled H sp. Sulawesi GPS 8867 is the same
or another one similar ? Do you know anymore about it Mark ?
Just remembered I saw info in a Stemma - went searching, and sure enough, Volume 2 #1 compares it with subquintuplinervis.
I'll put that on my label then - Hoya pottsii from Chiang Mai.
Thanks !
Paula
Paula...you might mention to that collector on GW that Paul Shirley is not reknown for having correctly labeled hoyas. Most of his ids are 'sp.' or numbers...so he isn't pinnned down...but......
Carol
Paula....both H. pentaphlebia and H. citrina have very recurved margins...does your mystery subquituplinervis?
Have you found out what it is? Have you asked the person you bought it from? You could send a picture and ask him.....
Hmmm, not exactly sure what recurved margins means - does that mean the edges of the leaves are curvy ??
My plant has very curvy edges on some leaves and others are completely normal - see pics....
#1
#2
I haven't contacted the seller - but I think Mark is right that this one is H. pottsii 'Chiang Mai' - the VERY few pics that I have seen of it are a dead-ringer for my plant.
I think this plant is fairly commonly mislabeled as H. subquintuplinervis , because several that I've seen labeled as such are actually the plant I have, which must be H. pottsii 'Chiang Mai'. Is that understandable ? Hope so ! ^_^
If anyone has H. pottsii 'Chiang Mai' OR H. subquintuplinervis - please post pics if you can - that would help give us a visual difference between the two. They are very OBVIOUSLY different !
Thanks,
Paula
Paula, I believe recurved means that the edges curve under.
Here's a picture of my H. subquintuplinervis (with a few battle scars). I think it looks more like your picture #1, but the leaves have never recurved, or curved the other way (whatever that's called) the way they do in your pictures. I got it from Ted Green.
Christine
I googled for images of H. pottsii chiang mai: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=images+of+hoya+pottsii+chiang+mai&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=p7G9Sei-Kdu2twfS17j3Cw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title
and H. subquintuplinervis: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=images+of+hoya+subquintuplinervis&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=FbK9SbK0G6HhtgfejsT7Cw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title
PF listing for subquintuplinervis: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57797/
Foliage on both do look somewhat alike.
Thanks guys !
Christine yours looks like it may be the same as mine and that was the source for
my plant as well.
Lin, keep in mind that many of those plants that ARE labeled H. subquintuplinervis
are NOT.
Carol is going to pipe in with the herbarium sheet for H. subquintuplinervis - which is
the same plant as the one in the PF listing by ravenlocks. My plant is NOT that plant.
Here is a photo of the Type Sheet for H. suquintuplinervis. Notice the veins that come off the lower part of the main rib...compare them to Paula's first photo. Also notice the shape of the base and the apex.
Christine is correct re: the recurved margins...it means they curve down. This is an important identifier with leaves....
Corrected to say it is not the Type Sheet but the Lectotype Sheet. My mistake.
This message was edited Mar 15, 2009 4:08 PM
http://ww2.bgbm.org/Herbarium/Access.cfm?CurrentPage=1&Col=4&IsoCode=all&Fam=ASCLEPIADACEAE&SubColl=all&Genus=Hoya&FullNameCache=all
Check out this link, it was posted on another forum - it has awesome pics of original herbarium sheets.
edited to say - Notice the names on some of them...
This message was edited Mar 17, 2009 8:36 AM
GREAT link, Paula...tucked that one away!!! Wish they had the descriptions too but maybe I could find them....
Mahalo
Carol