Starting a new thread by suggestion from someone that the old one was getting too long for dial-ups.
Anyone had any experience germinating Pine Nuts? I have had them for 2 weeks now with no signs of life yet.
Culinary Herbs #2
I haven't ever tried to germinate pine nut seeds, but I live in an area where pines frequently grow from seeds. Here in New Mexico, my guess is that the seeds must go through at least one winter before they can germinate. They are shed in the fall and the earliest they are likely to come up is in the following spring. For all I know they may wait for years.
Do you know what variety of pine you are trying to grow? My guess is that they will want to be soaked and frozen for quite a period of time before germination. They might need light as well.
Yes this loads much faster. Thank you.
It is Pinus pinea (Italian Stone Pine)----Richters did not--I have e-mailed them
To my amazement google produced the following when I searched on Italian Stone Pine seed germination:
http://www.treehelp.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=SD-10930
Partway down the page it describes seed germination techniques.
and here is some more advice -- halfway down the page under Propagation:
http://www.aussiegardening.com.au/findplants/plant/Pinus_pinea
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Great info pajaritomt ----Thanks a million---I will start over using this technique
And here is what your trees will look like some day:
http://www.aussiegardening.com.au/findplants/plant/Pinus_pinea
Interesting Vort. I ordered a Korean Nut Pine from Burnt Ridge Nursery to be delivered this spring. Italian Stone Pines are not hardy in my zone (5). So, I'll give the Korean Nut Pine a whirl. Keep us updated on your success with germination.
herbalbetty--Did you ever germinate Asafetida?
Oh yeah, the asafetida germinated great! However, we had the second rainiest summer ever in NY last year and the asafetida gave up the ghost! I shall try again this year.
hb--My "seeds" looked like mushy powdered charcoal when I got them--was that normal?
Vort - mushy charcoal??? No, mine look like giant dill seeds. I got mine from Horizon Herbs, where did you get yours?
Horizon herbs--I wrote them and they are going to send another pack
Good! Horizon Herbs is really a great company. Stuff happens (like apparently not getting seeds in a pack), but they are quick to make everything right. And their germination rates are really excellent.
I bought some seeds off the rack from a reasonably well known seed company once and found there were no seeds inside the envelope, I should have written to them.
Culantro Notes:
Saved seeds form last years plant---they germinated so well that I had enough to flavor 2 salads--the seedlings do have a "cilantro flavor"---The leaves of the older plant did not.
I had enough for salads, the spring plant sale, the Botanical Gardens and still had to dispose of hundreds of germinated seedlings.
I grew them once, but mine didn't go as wild as yours. Nice to have these exotic spices around for soups, etc.
Never ever, ever,ever violate this principal like I did.
"Always inspect your plants before bringing them home"
I have a small greenhouse with hundreds of herbs started from seed.
Perfectly beautiful and healthy!.
A friend brought in a pack of tomatoes from Wally World for me to keep for a few weeks and I did not inspect it!!
I now have a gazillion Aphids on every plant and it has been a battle to save them--
the plants-not the Aphids.
:(
My condolences. Experience is a hard teacher.
Vortreke, I've noticed that for the last 2 years the wally world plant sections here andin Etex have been infested with aphids. Think they come from Bonnies Nursery.
You are right cando1 ---evry Bonnie plant I have looked at lately is infested.
O that's awful news Vortreker :(
Well this might get me in trouble but I refuse to buy Bonnie Herbs/veggies anymore. They just don't seem to thrive. Not had the aphids problem, just poor performance.
harump
mj
Sounds to me like you should put that in Garden Watchdog. That is the kind of thing that it is important to share with DG members. Can't see how telling the truth would get you in trouble -- at least not on this subject.
I agree with paj. Although sometimes it feels small, I think we need to share all our experiences with suppliers both good and bad.
Thanks---I did but unfortunately I posted it in "Bonnie's Plants" not "Bonnie Plants"--I am trying to correct that.
Hi Everyone,
I'm so happy to have found this thread. I am an avid herb and fruit gardener in Sarasota, FL. We have 1 2/3 acres and I have my "secret" garden area off the kitchen in the back of the house. Below is a list of what I am growing in my little tropical paradise. I have photos of everything on my website www.mommystuff.net . I add photos weekly as the plants change so rapidly this time of year. I would love to connect with others in my area who are growing similar items. I'm trying to start a local herb club. Please email if you live in my neck of the woods.
Fondly,
Mommystuff
HERBS
Allheal
Alow
Arnica Montana
Anise hyssop
Bacopa
Bacopa, Lemon
Basils
Greek Columnar
Lemon
Lettuce Leaf
Lime
Sweet
Bay Tree
Bay Rum
Bergamot (Monarda)
Betel
Betony
Borage
Calendula
Camelia sinesis
Caper bush
Cardamom
Catnip
Chives
Garlic
Onion
Cilantro
Comfrey
Coriander
Culantro
Curry Plant
Daisy
Dill
Boquet
Fernleaf
Echinacea
Fennel
Bronze
Sweet
Feverfew
Fuschia
Galangal True
Gardenia
Garlic
Society
Geranium
Apple
Citronella
Lemon Sculpture
Rose
Ginger
Ginkgo
Goji Berries
Gotu kola
Greek mountain tea
Gynura
Henna
Hibiscus
Edible
False Roselle
Honeysuckle
Horseradish
Jasmine
Arabian Tea
Confederate
Lamb’s Ear
Lavender
Lemon balm
Lemon grass
Lemon verbena
Lion’s tail
Marjoram
Marshmallow
Mint
Apple
Berries & Cream
Blackberry
Chocolate
Citrus kitchen
Corsican
Costa rican Kama Sutra
Cotton candy
English
Grapefruit
Hazelnut
Italian spice
Jim’s Fruit
Lavender
Lemon sweet
Margarita
Marilyn’s Salad
Mojito
Mountain
Orange Bergamot
Oregano thyme
Pennyroyal
Spearmint
Sweet pear
Wintergreen
Yerba buena
Monarda
Moujean tea/Bahama Berry/Pineapple Verbena
Mullein
Murraya koeniggi
Myrtle greek
Nasturtium
Oregano
Cuban
Italian
Mexican
Pandanus Amaryllifolius
Papalo
Parsley
Curled
Flat Leaf
Pepper
Black Pepper Vine
Chili
Habernero
Jalapeno
Ornamental
Red Pepper Vine
Tabasco
Perilla
Purslane
Root beer plant
Rose
Bon Silene Tea
Champneys pink cluster
Climbing don juan
Double red
Moanne lombard
Red cascade
Safrano
Treasure blend hybrid
Rosemary
Romero
Spice island
Victorian
Sage
Common
Diviners
Grape scented
Mexican
Pineapple
Savory
Spice bush, Lindera Benzoin
Spilanthese
Spinach
Malabar
Okinawa
Star anise
Stevia
St johns wort
Sugar cane
Sushini
Sweet almond verbena
Tarragon
Tea olive
Thyme
English
Lemon
Tilo
Turmeric
Violet sweet
Yarrow
Yerba mate
Zaatar
Zuta levana
WATER PLANTS
Bacopa, lemon
Cattail
Celer, water
Chestnut, water
Mint, water
FRUITS:
Acai Palm
Allspice
Ambarella
Apple Anna
Apple Dorset Golden
Atemoya Gefner Grafted
Avacado Haas
Avacado Fuerte
Banana
Bay Rum
Blackberry
Black Sapote Seedless
Black Walnut
Blueberry
Blueberry Gulf Coast
Blueberry Sharp
Blueberry Windsor
Cocao
Calomondin
Camellia Sinesis, Tea
Cashew Apple
Cercropia
Cherry Black Grafted Surinam
Cherry Grumichama
Cherry Rio Grand
Cherry Barbados
Cherry Dwarf Barbados
Chestnut Malibar
Cinnamon
Coffee
Dragon Fruit
Eucalyptus
Eugenia Confusa
Fig Brown Turkey
Fig Green Isha
Fig Kadota
Goji Berry
Grapefruit Pink
Grapefruit Yellow
Grapes Bunch
Grapes Muscadine
Guave Chattey
Guava Pineaple
Guava Ruby
Guava Strawberry
Guava
Jaboticaba
Joy Perfume Michelia Champaca
Jujube
Katok
Kiwi Tomuri m&f
Lemon Harvey
Lemon Sambukan
Lemon Varigated Pink
Lime Key
Lime Kaffir
Lime Persian
Lime Red
Longan Kahola
Loquat
Lychee Hakip
Lychee Maritius
Mango
Mango Carrie
MANGOSTEEN
Michelia Alba
Michela Champaca
Miracle Fruit
Mombin Red
Monstera Deliciosa
Moringa
Mulberry Dwarf
Mulberry Shangrila
Natal Plum
Nectarine Sun Raycer
Neem
Olive Fremtoya
Orange
Orange Dwarf Navel
Orange Red Blood
Orange Ortanique
Orange Tarocco Blood
Papaya
Passionfruit Yellow
Peach Red Cylon
Peach Tropic Beauty
Peanut Butter Fruit
Pear
Pear Pineapple
Persimmon Ichibe Juro
Persimmon Triumph
Pineapple, Golden
Pistachio
Plantain
Plum Gulf Rose
Pomegranate Dwarf
Pomegranate Vietnamese
Rambutan
Rose Apple
Spanish Lime
Strawberry
Strawberry Tree
Sugar Cane
Tamarind
Tangelo
Tangerine Murcott
Tangerine Satsuma
Wax Jambu Thai Red Sunset
White Sapote
Yerba Mate
mommystuff, I haven't made my way all the way through your website but you have a beautiful place. I love your herb gardens; something I am working on myself. You are in a perfect climate to grow herbs too.
Can we rejuvenate this thread?
I have moved from Alabama 8b to Texas 7b and had to leave all of my culinary herbs behind-so I am starting over.
Have become even more brain dead and need advice from all of my old buddies again-
Really enjoyed this thread.
Miss you "guys"
I have moved this year as well however I went from a zone 5 to 7a.....big difference. I'm excited to find the new plants I can grow in a new climate.
You can grow so many herbs in zone 7. You have enough winter for things like thyme and warm enough winter that exotic oreganos and rosemaries survive. Lucky you! Good zone choice!
Thanks pajoritomt,
Piked my spirits up.
Me too! I was wondering if my rosemary's would survivie.....I brought them in over the winter because I always have. I definitely have plenty to study up on. We have been in the 60's all week and the girls think it's spring already! hee hee. They are wanting to run around in shorts and sandals. ^_^
You may be able to grow all Rosemaries outdoor year round, but the two that will definitely survive in Zone 7 are Rosemary Arp and Rosemary Madeleine Hill. They even surive outdoors here in Zone 5a -- on a south side.
Hi Vort, as you can see, I am also in zone 7b( just about 90 miles east of you). I've only been here going on 2 years but was quite surprised at some of the herbs that have survived this winter so far, as we have had temps down in the teens & hard freezing conditions.
My in-ground herbs that are green now: oregano, creeping thyme, marjoram, rosemary (rosemarinus officinalis), lemon balm, and not so surprisingly-several mints; also french sorrel. there are other herbs I have in pots that are imature so put them in the garage (no-don't have a greenhouse); clary, catnip, marshmallow & others can't think of right now... I'll probably put them in the ground come spring.
Allwild---thanks for the info--will probably pick your brain further
Allwild--did your mint survive our brutal summers?
Yes and it flourished. I put it in the front garden -north side of house last spring where it gets hours of afternoon sun, and both spearmint and peppermint went crazy. Which I knew better that to let is sprawl without containment, but.... this year I'm going to have to think of a way to contain it from getting out of hand.
I grow mine in a pot, where the roots can't touch the ground, or they're on cement bricks. It gets partial sun.
I've seen various herb plants w/pot & all in the ground which seemed like a successful method of containment. They were all very well behaved sitting in their designated areas and they looked really pretty. This was at Mercer Arboretum.