Agave (Agave titanota)

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thistlesifter Vista, CA Dec 23, 2008

Agave
Agave titanota

A green version grown from material collected at same site as blue titanota.

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Xenomorf Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b) Oct 02, 2009

thistlesifter,
This Agave looks like Agave 'Sierra Mixteca FO-076'
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/64927/

From a few discussions a year or two ago, it was discovered that 'Sierra Mixteca FO-076' and A. titanota were getting confused with each other alot. They do in fact grow in the same region as each other. a couple of main differences I see are the shape of the leaves and the marginal thorns.

Here's some old threads discussing it.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/691053/

Here's another thread discussing the big mix up.
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/660824/

Xeno.

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thistlesifter Vista, CA Oct 11, 2009

Xeno,
As far as I know the argument still continues.

I don't get much insight from the defender of the F 076 side. I see the result that came from a seed pod that came from Rancho Tambor. Planted results grew out of seed from such a pod and are shown here. amazing variety from one plant let alone one seed pod.

If you can imagine shifting the colors around from one plant to another, virtually every form of titanota can be imagined. The seed that these plants came from were sown at the same time. There are at least 4 other venues in this garden that show the diversity of the species that came from this titanota fruit (seed pod).

Bob




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Xenomorf Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b) Oct 11, 2009

I wonder if anyone has actually studied, measured and documented the flowers yet from both of the Agave's. That would be interesting to see what the differences are if any.
Xeno.

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thistlesifter Vista, CA Oct 11, 2009

two of the offspring from the seeds are budded now at Rancho Soledad Nursery in LaJolla CA.

I have one of the small so-called FO76 20 year old specimen that should flower before too many years...

Its hard to tell after you see the Rancho Tamobor site diversity, which clone you have in your garden. The argument is only academic at this point.

There is probably an abundance of DNA in these Agaves.

here is another group setting.

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Xenomorf Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b) Oct 11, 2009

Do you know if they are going to measure and document the blooms of those? And perhaps do an official write-up in a succulent Journal about them.
DNA is the other test that could help solve this.

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thistlesifter Vista, CA Oct 25, 2009

Now would be a good time. You could probably do it yourself.



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