can you help ID a hoya?

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

This was a very large hoya until the wind knocked her out of the tree and slammed her to the ground about a month ago. I am trimming her back up but I have never asked anyone what she is. Her leaves are the darkest green thick leaves I have ever seen on a hoya. Here is a close up picture and she doesn't have the speckles that obovata has........just may look like it

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Pittsburgh, PA

I have a hoya carnosa that has those really black-green leaves....but I can't tell from your picture if that's definitely what it is....Has it ever bloomed for you?

Shelley

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

No because I wasn't here when it fell and everything broke.........the person who cleaned it up didn't save the cuttings. It didn't have a chance to bloom.

I have ordered that new Swedish book in English so I can quit asking all the time.

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Can you take a picture showing the bases and the apexes of the leaves? Are the margins 'recurved' (do the edges of the leaves turn under at all?)....

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

let me go look.........thanks Carol. They most definitely want to turn under on the margins................

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Are the leaves very thick? and are the stems thick and not very pliable?

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

The leaves are thicker than any hoya I have and the stems are so thick they don't allow me to have a 'pretty' plant. They do exactly what they want to do. I think that is why so much broke when she fell from the tree. There are others which have taken a trip to the ground from hanging in the tree and I just pick them up and hang them up again with no damage. So...........right now..........she looks pretty pathetic and I was thinking about dumping her. Let me get a horrible chance to show you how ugly she is at this moment.

don't let the kerrii confuse you..........she is stuck in the same basket............the old leaves are sunburned.........all the new leaves are the dark green leaves...........thinking about just propagating her if I can' identify her......

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Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

these stems are not the kerrii.................I know the kerrii are thick...........but these stems are almost as thick and do exactly what they want to do.......which is go in circles most of the time................if I can just identify her I can decide if she is worth propagating

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Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

They don't look the same. Obovata has fatter leaves and speckles on it and they don't want to turn under on the edges..............the one I am trying to identify has been abused but all the new foliage coming in are long big dark dark green leaves that turn over on the edge..........

Remember that this obovata doesn't have runners because I have sent to everyone I know (LOL) plus rooted a few myself........

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Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

do obovata vary in speckles, etc................color, etc..............

(Zone 1)

LOL, Gail ... I don't know much at all about Hoya's. I was just thinking those leaves in your first photo looked kinda, sorta like obovata to me. Maybe it's a carnosa of some sort? Do you have a picture of the blooms?

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

of course not...............

(Zone 1)

LOL, I thought maybe you had a picture from past blooms to post.

^_^ I just re-read one of your above posts where you said you want to identify her to see if she is worth propagating. I hope you won't throw that beauty out! Every plant has a place .... somewhere! You could re-pot it in it's own pot and come spring when the weather begins to warm up I bet it takes off like crazy with new growth. Or, actually it will probably grow like gangbusters out on your porch, since you winter wrap the porch in poly and there's so much bright light and warmth from the heaters! Plants don't even know it's winter at your house! Please don't throw it out ... pot it up alone or take cuttings and make a bunch of new plants. I'm sure eventually you will get an ID on that one.

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

right now........I am big on labeling every hoya I have because I can't forget.........and if I propagate and don't have a name I can't sell on DG.............I love to root and I love to get money! (LOL)

Here is another unidentified hoya............maybe it will get a name

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Huntsville, AL(Zone 7a)

Hoya wayetii

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

H. motoskei? Looks like mine.

Teguise, Spain

is it H diversifolia or one of those H fraterna ssp.ssp.ssp.ssp.lordknows??

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Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

All my other plants get a quick name..........but these hoyas throw me for a loop................Carol.............do you think I just have another different color of obovata on the first one?????????????

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Gotta think that one and check mine for glabrous (no hairs) or pubescent (fuzzy).

(Zone 1)

That last one with the dark leaf edges ... I agree with the ID of H. wayetti. I have that one and it was originally labeled something else (can't remember the name but very similar looking plant, no brown leaf edges.) This one was correctly identified on this forum as H. wayetti.

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Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

pretty, Lin......................Carol........my first picture doesn't hair any hair or is not fuzzy in any way................

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

Look at this gorgeous australis from Exotica.............this is the way to go..............

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(Zone 1)

Gail, That is a gorgeous H. australis! Sure wish the EA Hoya's were still available around here. I saw them at Home Depot, Lowe's, Target and Wal-Mart garden centers last year, not a one anywhere to be found this year!

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Yes...beautiful H. australis!!! Who is Exotica?

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

I ordered it online..................I can give you the web site if I look for it in my book marks....
The ones we get at Lowes and various places are never as pretty as the ones you can order online..............these are just the EA Hoyas.......maybe exoctica is the wrong name............be right back.

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

I admit I didn't know about the site..............a DG friend told me........they change them out all the time...........it was 9.00 to ship UPS......ground and it arrived in perfect condition after a week in a box..........

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

last questions about those leaves in the top picture: are they the same leaves as the lower pictures? Does the edge of the leaf have a sharp feel to it...? Like it could cut paper...and that it turns down but ever so slightly?

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

let me go see how sharp they are...............be right back

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

Now I know what the problem is............there are three kinds of hoyas planted in the one basket. The dark leaves I posted first do have sharp edges............the other leaves don't. I started looking and realized that there is probably an obovata in there along with a Kerrii and then this dark green leafed one. Yes, the edges are sharp, Carol , but I don't think it is going to cut anyone. I compared the sharpness and the dark leaves are much sharper than any of the other leaves in the basket of other plants.........

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

My guess would be H. diversifolia.

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

Thanks.......you are so nice..........tomorrow I am going to find only the dark green leaved stems and start propagating them. Thank everyone!

Whatever it is, it's gorgeous. Put some of that on DG.

Susan

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

I do think it is diversifolia and the other two are something else.................thanks

I love those dark green leaves. Are you still propagating them?

S

Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

Yes, dmail me..................I will look outside tomorrow and see if I have some................when a big batch of hoyas got rooted inside, I took them all outside on the porch..........let me show you (LOL)

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Taft, TX(Zone 9a)

Here is the poor mother plant I have been cutting on. You can see that there are two different kinds in this basket.......

The plywood is left over from Hurricane Ike. When my brother tried to take it down I threw a fit because I like my bedroom being this dark!

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