I recently purchased this one without a name, it appears to be a clumper would be approx 1ft high in pot...could it be a selloum x.?.TIA
This message was edited Nov 27, 2008 5:42 PM
Philo name?
closeup of stem
leaf
Based upon the sheathing of the leaves, this is still a juvenile plant. It looks like it could have some selloum in it or could be a polyploid sport of selloum, based on the look of the leaves. I've done extensive hybridization with this group of Philos and have yet to see one similar to that come up.
LariAnn
Aroidia Research
Were was this bought from? It resembles saxicolum. It would be very hard to ID. Possibly like Lariann said a hybrid or mutation?
Nursery bought...the label gave no details.It does appear as though it will be a strong grower it has been in the same pot for a couple of months and has grown well in that time,is rootbound and badly needs to be potted up!Thankyou both for your input .cheers
This message was edited Nov 28, 2008 2:14 PM
Update:Could it be the one known here in Australia as( wait for it!!)'Super Atom'?I have reason to believe it may be...another dave's gardener has one similar.....although the cultivar did not originate in Australia.Any info in regards to height and hardiness would be greatly appreciated.Cheers
Asiatica sells a small contorted form of philo. selloum they call 'Little Crunchy'. In the link below, there is a picture of one they are calling P. selloum 'Little Crunchy'. It looks very similar to yours. (scroll down to the 5th post by "Eric")
http://tropicsphere.com/main/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=71917
Here's Asiatica's page with a picture of their plant:
http://www.asiaticanursery.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/plants.plantDetail/plant_id/1494/index.htm
Thanks for that Carter...I did check it out and have to agree it is one and the same,very confusing when they are the same plant but given different names in each country !! Only thing is I still can't find any info as to it's ultimate/mature size.It would be nice if growers would include this info.
Here's an update on Super atom...it would now be about 16" high and has been potted on twice since last pics were taken.It is now growing in a 12" pot.There were thick roots growing out of the drainage holes each time. As shown in this pic the roots are big for a plant this size...they would be as thick as a mans small finger.It appears to be a very strong grower and it's only fault I can see at this time is the leaves easily break off.
What I would like to know is.Does the root size give any indication of the eventual size of a mature plant or can it be common to see thick roots like this on a young small variety of philodendron?. It's just that I have no idea of it's eventual mature size as no details were on the label when purchased.
Hoping one of the experts here can help.TIA
It being a mutation or odd hybrid the roots maybe that of a regular sized plant of this group but the plant itself will stay dwarf. From what I have seen this seems to be the case. It will slowly produce a trunk and could possibly reach a much taller size than expected. Over all expect it to be much smaller than other self heading philodendrons and possibly years later producing a trunk several feet up.
In my experience, polyploid mutations have shorter, thicker leaves and roots, and do tend to be dwarfed. This is not a case of a genetically bred smaller P. bipinnatifidum Philo (as I have a number of those), but of a spontaneous increase in ploidy during seed formation (IMHO). Interesting plant, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to bloom!
LariAnn