If you are trading cutting.People please cutt them the same day when you mail them out.Also make sure you pack them real good so they want dry out.All this stuff is a fair trade.So please don't screw people over.Thanks
Cuttings be fair and do whats right
That is Great advice.. Thanks for bringing it up.. This is the time of yr for most to take cuttings...Everyone wants a Happy Package!
Kylie
Well I got a package today and the cuttings were dead.They did not trim the leaves off and that is a NO. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AWWW I am sorry.. What did they send.. If it is something I have I will gladly send it to you.. I know that doesn't fix it BUT..Perhaps it is someone who doesn't have the right info or experiencs.. We were are Rookies once...
Hmmm...
well, whether you leave the leaves on a cutting or strip them depends on the plant you are propagating. Not all cuttings need to be denuded to survive. Most like a little greenery left at the tip to help them photosynthesize and make some food for energy while they root. And if you stripped all the leaves off a hoya cutting, it would die.
They sent me rose cuttings.Pat Austin,Knock Out rose and Golden Shower.That is very sweet of you.I think they are going to send me some more.Thanks any way Mr.Kylie.
i always leave a few top leaves on all my cuttings. it doesn't kill them.
It was alot of leaves on the cuttings.When i got them they were dry.
Sorry i put Mr instead of Mrs
LOL.. .. I couldn't be of any help anyway. Couldn't grow a Rose to save my Soul...Don't really even like them.. (no offense)
I hope you get some great replacements!!!
Kylie
Oh, no you didn't.Nothing wrong with that,people have their likes and dislikes.Thanks anyway.
Altho...LOL I have NO Prob sending you down the path of "No Return"... I Love Brugs.. If you havn't grown one than you should... They are Easy, Beautiful and Smell Amazing!!!! Would compliment any Rose Garden with their presence... Check them out!!! I looked at your list. .(Maybe this isn't the best time hahaha.). BUT you have a couple of things I would be interested in... ;O)
Mz.Kylie
No i haven't ever grown brugs.This will be my first.What all do you have.What are you interested in that is on my list.
I am currently starting my very first rose cuttings. They arrived with the leaves attached. They were very wilted but I left them on, except for the rooting area. The leaves eventually dried out completely & fell off, but the cuttings have sprouted new growth. Are you sure the cuttings wouldn't still be good? I was skeptical about mine but they are looking very good now. Since I had never done rose cuttings before, I didn't know what they should look like. LOL
You have Kahili Ginger and Parrot Lily I would like have...What colors do you like.. Sorry to say there are no Purples and Red... not really.. I do have a few Sang seed tho.. saw that on your list...
K
What brugs seeds do you have.Let me know please.
More than I could ever list here I will send you mail
..Got to go be a responsible adult..LOL Supper time...
Kylie
My first brugs many yrs ago
I got a bag full of them and when i saw them i thought i had been had!
there was no way these pieces of sticks were going to ever grow
they were dry and old looking! But i followed the directions-i put them in water
kept them under my bed in the dark on a warm register and guess what..........
Those darn lil sticks grew into trees!!!
I dont grow them anymore here in Michigan-but it was amazing!!!
stick them in water and see what happens!!
I've never heard of stripping leaves off before shipping cuttings. I've taken rose cuttings before and they do dry out pretty fast but once soaked or potted up and watered they should re-hydrate rather quickly. How long were they in the mail?
I hope you d-mailed your trade partner and let her know you were not pleased with the condition of what you received. Were the plants shipped Priority (2-3 days)? That is usually the best bet when shipping plants, whether leaves, cuttings or already rooted plants. Depending on what zone they were coming from and going to ... the weather this time of year is already cold in some areas and cold temperatures will cause plants to dry out quickly too.
Hope you receive great replacements for the trade you were not happy with. Some of us have not been shipping plants/cuttings for very long and are still learning the correct way to pack and ship. I'm sure most DG'ers would gladly send a replacement package if privately d-mailed about a problem trade.
notmartha: The same goes for Plumeria ... you receive what seems to be dead looking sticks and what a surprise when you finally see leaves and full beautiful plants with those awesomely fragrant flowers!
I am sorry you are unhappy with your trade. That is no fun.
I don't see anything wrong with leaving the leaves and having them arrive dry/brittle. In fact, I may prefer that. That way, leaves dehydrate first rather than the actual stem, so in a way, leaves are a buffer. As long as stem looks hydrated and the base has a moist paper towel, that is what is important, IMO. I propagate a lot and have worked successfully with cuttings that had dried/brittle leaves, cuttings with nice tender leaves (which I promptly removed when rooting) and cuttings with no leaves, just sticks. Most of them worked fine regardless.
If sticks were green and firm, despite the dried up mess, it may be worth your while to try to root those. If sticks were brown or black, well, bye bye and definitely bad. I have also worked with cuttings that arrived to me with nice leaves, then I put in water for as long as 10 days because I had a million other things to do; they still set roots. Some cultivars are easier to work than others.
I have no idea who your trading partner was, but the fact he/she are sending replacements suggests to me that they care and were not trying to willfully take advantage of you.
I think they were in the mail for four days.I am still going to try and root these cuttings.I don't blame the trader.The postal service sent it somewhere else.By the time I got them they were dried up.Don't get me wrong I have them in water to see if they will hydrate themself again.
I was talking about dormet hard wood cuttings.It's ok to have leaves on late spring cuttings.
I cut mine down early as I can get frost here in early October sometimes. So they are pretty well rooted or at least have big nubbins when I mail them. They have a few leaves on top. I wrap them in a wet paper towel and then another one and then that press 'n seal which works great. So far, everyone has been happy with them.
I got some cuttings like that also. (tropicals not roses) Were wrapped in paper towels and had dried out. One has died, and the other is hanging on by a thread. I didn't say anything but I will in the future ask how they plan to pack them. It was my first trade too.
This may be the wrong place to ask, but is it too late to take dormant rose cuttings? I didn't get to it before Thanksgiving, but my ZD climber definitely needs a trim anyway (so I don't mind if the cut tips die back a bit)... Can somebody point me to a link about propagating roses from dormant cuttings? Thanks!!
I found a rose thread over in the propagation forum and posted there. :-)
I like leaves left on. I think they help provide humidity during shipping and the stems may receive some food from them. It does also prove that it was a healthy growing plant and not some stick that needed trimming off because it was dying anyway.
I have seen over the years that even the experts disagree on proper methods of doing things. Perhaps when a person makes a trade it would be best to request trimming or no trimming according to your like or dislikes.
I always thought one was supposed to leave at least 2 or 3 leaves on cuttings, especially brugs.
Now with the brugmansia i have gotten cuttings with no leaves and i didn't think it was going to live,but guess what i put it in water for a week and then i put it in a pot, it is putting out leaves left and right.It was just a nub to.I think its a good to have leaves left on brug cuttings.Because most of the time they will stay on there while they are rooting and growing.
If you go to the Brugmansia forum there are so of my cuttings on one of them in the front you will see a pot with a plant in it.Well it is the one that was the nub it booming with leaves.
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I've stored rose cuttings for two weeks or more in my refrigerator after receiving them in trade and they rooted fine. Leaves or no leaves, doesn't really matter. They soon fall off anyway after you stick them (most of the time). The thing is to keep them cool and hydrated. When I ship cuttings, I put the cut ends into a baggie with a little damp coir and seal it with a rubber band. Spray the leaves with water, into a plastic bag and into the shipping box. If you can't send them until the next day they'll be fine as long as they are refrigerated. I've come to believe that refrigeration for a few days actually helps them root....mho of course but it really does seem to help. And then when you stick them to root, use coir and a misting setup. Makes a huge difference. Some good rooting hormone doesn't hurt either. I use Clonex gel.
woodspirit, great idea re: the press and seal. Gotta try that when all my new roses grow enough to start trading cuttings again.
You can also put Figs in the refrigerate to help root them too.
Thanks for that tip, I've been considering begging fig cuttings and trying my hand at those too LOL
I planted a Celestial this fall and ran across a gallon unnamed variety in the bargain bin at Lowe's for $4.99. It'll be interesting to see what that turns out to be. I love figs, yum!
Methinks I'm gonna need a bigger yard ;-)
Your welcome.
