Cutting Request

Hey All...

I was wondering if anyone has a cutting of this??? I'm fairly new to the brugs and saw this one under plant files...I would like to obtain a cutting of this one and get it rooted good over the winter. I REALLY need this one!!! There is a reason for me to want this one badly...

My dad worked the coal mines of West Virginia all during my youth...until they shut most of them down and we moved down here to North Carolina for him to find work..My mother didn't work much outside the home as they were four of us kids. My dad passed away in 1999 and it will be 10 years next year...seems like yesterday and forever all in one...We took him home(WVA) to be buried as he wished and my mother has since moved back up there..I would like to place this just behind his headstone so as when it blooms they will sorta be over him...the Angels are playing Trumpets for him...I would like to place it there maybe Fathers Day...

If anyone has a cutting of this it would mean alot to me..and I will pay for it!!!

Miner's Claim is the name of this..

Thanks for taking time to read...

This message was edited Nov 10, 2008 10:26 PM

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Mary... you've a lovely touching thought... unfortunately a brug won't last but a summer in WVA.. you'd have to dig it up and bring it inside.. unless you're warm enough there and can cut it back and mulch it heavily... That particular Brug .. MinersClaim is a particularly weak grower..tender above others... and you'd stand some small chance with it under the best of conditions...IMHO.
You'd be able to keep one alive there in NC perhaps .. take acutting in the fall... root it out over the winter.. and plant it for him in the spring... and just have anannual there every year... but I'd choose a more durable one... and have someone drop by and feed it .. or plant it with a pile of ferts.... it's less automatic than many others you might choose...
sorry for your loss... can't ... just can't figure out the how of that problem..

Marymac, to add to Gordon's comments, a Brug with that much variegation needs to be sheltered from the hot afternoon sun. Almost all Brugs are free of patents that is why cuttings are so freely shared. Miner's Claim is one of two,that I know of, Brugmansias that are patented and propagation is prohibited. You would have to purchase it. annually or dig it up every fall. Why not do as Gordon suggests and go with a hardier one, one that has a chance of returning every year.

Veronica... to my understanding.. you are allowed in the patent agreement.. to make cuttings to replenish the plant you have.. I don't know about making a grove of them.. but to replace one going to die... I think you are allowed to make a replacment..
But.. this could be an old wives tale..also

I've never looked it up. I still have the original Snowbank plants I bought some years ago. Park Seeds had them so I bought one. It was almost dead when I received it. After I notified them about its condition, Parks sent me a replacement. The original survived so I have two. My Miner's Claim is too small to take a cutting from. I'll have to do some research.

Mary however, was asking for a cutting — a different matter.

Any suggestions for a more hardy brug to place ??....I think I may still purchase a Miner's Claim for my own garden...Thanks

I was not aware Miner's Claim was patented. Who holds the patent? It is a variegated sport of frosty pink. It was released in 1999 I believe.

http://www.google.ca/patents?id=cv8VAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA2&lpg=PA2&dq=Patent+PP15747&source=bl&ots=CFpqBv82kc&sig=Zmr00snx4knOEN32SwUrOKDCnSY&hl=fr&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result#PPA1,M1

I am sorry for the loss of your Father.. I have agree with Gordon and Betty.. Another thing to consider.. Is maintance.. Brugs are water hogs and Heavy feeders..You would need someone to care for it on a regular basis..Having on at your home in rememberance might be better.. Plant Delights usually carries MC and they have beautiful plants..
Best of Luck!
Kylie

I have 'Miner's Claim' and it does require care. It's does have beautiful foliage though,
and very lovely in bloom.
I am sorry about you Dad, also.
As I am sw PA and just above WV, and many of my Family in and around the coal mines, also.

Mary, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, West Virginia is in plant hardiness zones 5a - 6b
http://www.growit.com/bin/USDAZoneMaps.exe?MyState=WV
Too cold for even the hardiest Brug to survive the winter even under tons of mulch. Some DGers who live in zone 7b have been able to find the right combination of microclimate/hardy Brug and overwinter them in the ground under mulch, but 5 and 6 are well beyond that. You will have to treat any Brug you plant as an annual. Take cuttings in the fall, root them in water through winter and plant them by your Dad after the last frost. If the cuttings you take are taken early enough, you'll be able to pot them and with the right set-up keep them growing through winter so they'll be larger by the time you plant them. I suggest you find two of a Brug you like. The first year, plant one in your yard and the other by your Dad. With plenty of fertilizer, the one you have at home should be large enough for you to take cuttings and start the cycle of cuttings for the cemetery.

I suggest you look through the Brugmansias in the PlantFiles for a single. They seem to be hardier. Remember not all the Brugs listed are found here in the states. If you'll be growing them in pots, it doesn't matter what you get. Maybe someone who has had success overwintering in the ground in zones 7a and b will provide you with the names of those Brugs.

Cherub is one of the easiest Brugs I have grown.. It comes back without mulch here in NW Texas.. We have always been z7 now classified as z8.. The thing (here anyway) about leaving them in the ground is it takes forever for them to bloom.. You may get a few flushes come Fall.. I usually always take 4' cuttings with a Y to insure early blooms. Didn't last yr and only got a few blooms before it was time to cut again..
Kylie

Hi Hummingbird,

I lost my BIL this past Spring. I did a remembrance garden for him. i got a little corner of my garden and planted something that he would have liked.

I bought two vintage roses (his favourtie plants) and some other pretty flowers. I also put up a bird nest made out of recycled material ( he was the recycling king!) and some little garden ornaments.

You could do the same in your own garden and even have a beautiful brug that you can keep in a cool looking pot and bring it in for the winter.

I bet your father would not mind not having the brug by his headstone. any place is a good place for a remembrance garden. what counts is the thought. Just think of him and talk to him when you walk past.:o)

I just wanted to thank all of you for your help and suggestions...but since I live in NC and my father is buried in WVA, I think that due to hardiness of the brugs and maintenance(I have no one to help with water and fert..My mother doesn't get around real good) I might better go with another type of plant by the headstone and designate a portion of my own yard with different flowers ..I could always take hardy annuals to the gravesite as well..that is what I've done in the past..when I saw it under the plant files and he was a coal miner it was just a thought I had...After reading your suggestions and problems I could occur trying to keep it living I do think I should do something different...I still think I may purchase one as an inside plant here at my home.
I do thank all of you for your help..

The Angel Trumpet sounds like a great idea, angel watching over him. I did a search on Coal miner and there is a daylily with that name http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/70348/
and combine with another daylily "All American Angel" http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/7155/
or "My Special Angel" http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/16562/
edited - They are all hardy for W Va zone.

This message was edited Nov 11, 2008 9:31 PM

How about a bleeding heart. That is what I put on my mothers grave. No care needed and winter hardy.

Miners claim is a very slow grower and hates the cold , wet feet and bright sun .
Good luck

Marymac,
I'm sorry for your loss. My Dad died on Christmas Day 1990, and I still miss him so much. He was a gentle man who made this world a better place in his own quiet way.

LiliMerci's suggestion sounds lovely and low maintenance. I hope you find something meaningful that will work for you.

A bleeding heart would be wonderful. I love mine and it is definitely a no care plant that everyone seems to love.

Marymac, I love your thinking on this. It's such a lovely idea and I hope you find just the right solution to your challenge. Sorry for the loss of your Dad.

Hummingbird, have you considered a daylily? Mary Jane at Westbourne Daylilies has 2 that might work.
Westbournes Coal Miner's Prayer and Westbournes Mining Camp Blues.