This is a seed cross from Alice (Abutilon). I picked these up on Ebay some time ago and these are my first blooms. They are super thick and waxy and have lasted for several days. I love the up facing blooms!
Caren
Lucifer x ?
Very pretty!!!
Seems like a keeper! Very attractive indeed.
Neat! I love the horizontal presentation too!
aww Caren, gorgeous.. you grew this from seeds? I can't get mine to pop out.. help!
Your seed doesn't germinate? This early spring, I sow mine barely cover with seeding mix medium, barely cover the seed, keep consistently moist under florescent light, and they sprouted with 2 weeks roughly.
I like the position of the flower on those too and the nice soft pink bell shape.
joeswife, this time of year a little bottom heat might help for the seedlings.
I love the shape and the horizontal presentation.
thanks for the info, will move my seed tray, I agree that shape, the way it goes out is really nice.. how fortunate you are to have such a beauty!
Thank you all! Good luck on your seeds Debra!
Very Nice Caren you did good on this Brug
Very nice!
I would like to purchase this from you someday when you are ready to sell it.
Do you remember what the cross is?
Sent you a Dmail Alice
this nice Caren, hope to have it in my collection one day..
Hi Caren, what a great find your have! I'd like to purchase one some day when u're ready too!
Wenny
Caren you have done a wonderful job.. I love the small flower.. long tendrils and recurve... I hope you do put this up for sale.. I would love to have it..
Kylie
Is this soft pink or soft peach? I can't tell from the picture all to well. Could be a sign of needing a new prescription.... As for substance, I love a nice thick waxy flower, but what would you compare it with to give some of us a clue as to exactly how thick this one is? By the way, I hope this one stays nice and soft in color like this, but it could of course darken up a bit if this is the first bloom cycle. The softer colors tend to relax me a bit more, not that I don't like the darker shades as well. I love them at extremes either way.... soft and pale in color or rubust and bursting with color.
It's pod parent 'Lucifer' is thick and waxy, also.
I really like how this seedling turned out.
Great cross Alice!
I like this one as well. Unfortunately, I have found very few Brugmansia that I consider truly thick and waxy. I am seeing a pattern in parentage of those that I do consider thick and waxy though and this one certainly fits the bill for that pattern. However, others have also fit that pattern and not shown me enough substance to consider them noteworthy in this department. This is why I was looking for a comparison. To put it bluntly, whether this one excels past others in substance or not or merely competes with them is arbitrary to my sincere love of this particular Brugmansia. Having exceptional substance would simply solidify my already tender feelings towards this one. Lucifer.... this as yet unnamed Brugmansia, Elizabeth, and a few others are noteworthy for breeding for substance and other traits that I personally adore. Others may simply like the substance or some other group of traits associated with these crosses and chose to use them in their breeding program to ensure those traits are multiplied as they are quantitative traits.
The color is a soft coral pink. I really don't have much to compair the thickness of the blooms to other than maybe a leaf on my EE's. That would be a little thicker than the bloom but just as waxy. It holds up very well in the wind and doesn't seem to mind the cooler weather we have been having (high 40's and low 50's).
I have a few more buds that should open soon so I will take more pics then.
Caren
Beautiful job Caren & Alice. Love the color and bloom shape.
I simply adore the aurea types and even though this one is not pure, it sure could find a good home with someone who liked pure aurea species. There are a lot more Brugmansia multi-hybrids that are bordering on being pure in phenotype nowadays. When I started hybridizing something like this was extremely hard to come by. The pure species is still hard to come by and one reason I have decided to breed pure aurea x pure aurea as well as a few select pure looking aurea types. This one definitely fits the bill for something to add to my collection when I come back to the States. Keep this one going. If your looking for other quality aurea types, Kaitlyn, Peace, Lucifer, Bernstein, etc. come to mind. Goldenes Kornett is your best bet for a nice easy growing pure species aurea until someone gets smart and makes Goldenes Kornett x Rothkirch and Rothkirch x Goldenes Kornett, or some other variant as there are truly very few pure aurea out there. I've seen a few in collections that have not been released and some that probably should not be released except to serious hybridizers as they are virus prone and need some serious work.
Eric are all pure aurea Brugs virus prone or just the aurea X aurea crosses?
bettydee,
Goldenes Kornett is a pure aurea and it is as healthy as a horse. Rothkirch, another pure aure, is virus prone and thus it is hard to root. Aurea x aurea crosses are the best way to breed for healthy pure aurea that are free of virus. Breeding pure aurea x pure aurea will also allow for the selection of healthier specimens with better blooming ability, thicker substance, more fragrance, branching, etc. All of these traits are worthwhile to breed for in my opinion. In addition, aurea species has some of the largest leaves and thus someone wanting to breed for large leaved Brugmansia variegates may find them noteworthy to add to their breeding program. Aurea mutations like Culebra, Quinde, etc. have some of the most unusual leaf forms of Brugmansia and for this reason as well, introducing these into your breeding program for a twist can and should be considered. I have seen too many Brugmansia labeled as infertile or impossible to set seed on when in fact they set seed in the wild or cultivars labeled as infertile when in fact they are simply a bit harder to set seed to than others. Persistence is the key and if you combine that with patience and a bit of skill, research, and luck you will have some true winners no matter what you do.
Very pretty, Caren. Congrats to you and Alice.
So the only effect the virus has on Rothkirch is the rooting problem? Is that virus capable of affecting other Brugs? ... other aureas?
Your Brugmansias are so beautiful Mrs.Caren thank you again for getting me started with so of your cuttings and the plant.That really means alot to me.When their is somebody that is as sweet as you to help get someone going.THANKS A MILLION
Trying to bring this topic back on topic... this is one lovely hybrid. I will try to stay focused here and simply say that I have noticed that the thickest substance (corolla wall) I have ever seen have always been on pure aurea or hybrids with aurea parentage. I love good aurea hybrids such as this as it brings in the substance that many hybrids are deficient in. Okay, still trying to stay on track. The downfall of such hybrids of this nature that I have seen is that the flower walls can be so thick as to make pollination a bit tricky if you don't want to damage the flower wall as the flower will often crack or break rather than bend to allow the pollen tube to be inserted for pollination. Hybrids such as this or pure aurea should therefore be pollinated with a q-tip that has had the cotton ruffled or loosened by rolling and pulling on the cotton gently. You can insert the q-tip into the pollen container that you might normally slip onto your stigma and around your style to pollinate and then gently roll the q-tip in this pollen. This also allows you to keep your pollen container for another flower of a different hybrid without fear of contamination. Lets try our best not to hi-jack this thread. I know I'm one of the worst offenders when it comes to rambling and in my defense I can only state that I am drawn to this plant and therefore this thread... I will do better or at least I will try. I know your a proud seedling mom Heavenscent!
No problem Eric or others I don't mind a bit of chat.
I dug this plant up this past weekend for our first frost. She is sulking a bit but seems to be doing good and still holding her last 2 buds. I didn't have the heart to pluck them off!
Take Care!
Caren
Caren, you might want to take some cuttings now if your not trying to set seed pods. Its better than letting the branches die back and this is exactly what will most likely happen if your not keeping it in good growing conditions. At least, that is what most of mine do as I can only put so many seedlings and plants on the window sill to over winter. I find that I can keep them (cuttings) alive better that way as well and its a nice bonus to have plants rooted and ready to be planted alongside mom when it warms up.
Caren, That one is very pretty. I love the way she holds the blooms up too. Linda