Have some pups of this pretty cool ALocasia that I can trade.
Looking for other alocasias, perhaps guttata"Buletta", crassifolia, Dewey's Reversa, Infernales, Tiffany...?
Or make offer. Also like hoyas, other aroids...
CLOSED: Have: Alocasia "Corozon" pups
I would like one ...Please have a look at my tradelist....Maybe we could work out something...Thanks
I would like to trade. I have lauterbaachiana which is an unusual EE. I also have rooted cuttings of Hoya Multifora and plumeria seedlings. LMK if you are interested!!!
Jeri
Hi Jeri,
I do appreciate your offers, but I seem to keep forgetting to post this on these individual trade posts... (I DO have it posted on my tradelist, however...)
Living in Florida prohibits me from trading plants with folks in certain states due to the rather rigid and stringent Agricultural laws dealing with Burrowing Nematodes. The states of CA, LA, TX, AZ and HI do not allow plants that are not certified to be nematode free to enter their states. Hawaii has further laws that prohibit many certain types of plants to enter from ANYWHERE without phyto certs etc.
It used to be, back before about 2005 (when most of the state's Ag Dept's rewrote and updated their regulations) that you could send some epiphytic plants (like orchids, bromeliads etc), air layered plants, and cuttings without roots to certain states, but they all managed to take this "loophole" out of their new updated rules.
I know that many people on trade forums (and sellers on eBay and the like) do not follow the Ag laws because they don't believe that as "individuals" (rather than "retailers" or "Nurseries") that they are actually bound by these laws, but we all are, and I am one who tries to do the right thing.
Hello gothqueen I live in La. and while I know there are plants that are on the invasive list I haven't heard this law. Do you happen to have a copy?
I know when we went to Hawaii that you needed the certificate to bring plants back.
For an overview of the basic Agricultural Statutes that affect all 50 states, you can go to:
www.nationalplantboard.org
and choose:
Laws and regulations
You can view the basic statutes for all the states in PDF or Word format.
Thanks for that link. It had some interesting information. I talked to Tad Hardy and he said that it is indeed a severe problem in Fla and not in La. He suggested that if you were interested you could have your soil tested at the University of Fla. or the Ag. Dept. and they can declare your soil nematode free. The nurseries that I do business with are certified so all is good there. I'm gonna have to go fine that plant somewhere else now. I really do like it!!! LOL!!!!
When I operated a nursery here I did have my soil tested. I was nematode free. But that's not the issue. You have to be certified nematode free on a yearly basis, and it costs a lot of $$ to maintain. And, you have to store all your potting soil and pots and everything you use off the ground at least 18 inches or by some other 'approved' method if you plan to ship to states that have the quarantine against you.
Its not my state that is so concerned with nematodes...we know we have them, LOL. Its the states that have quarantines AGAINST them, of which your state is one. I for one wouldn't want to contribute to anyone's problems, OR get in trouble.
I don't maintain a nursery anymore, I am just a regular Joe plant lady now, no commercial interest, but you can still get in trouble.
I hope you find another source for the Corozon. Its a very cool plant! SOrry we can't exchange. I did read Louisiana's updated Regs though and they do allow stuff like epiphytes, cuttings, aquatics, and air layers from Florida. Perhaps one day we might trade cuttings. I don;t think Texas even allows that stuff anymore, I know AZ doesn;t and CA is a lost cause.
I had asked Mr. Hardy about bare root but he said the nematode burrows itself so not even that was safe. I'm so glad you told us about this. He also said that La. was free of the nematodes so far and I wouldn't want to be the person to ruin that.
That's true, they do get into the roots. The problem with nematodes is that they are microscopic, so you can't see them on the plant/roots, like you would see, say, scale or mealybugs. The only way to see them is by a microscopic examination of the soil and of samples of the roots of your plants.
That is why it is expensive to have the USDA come out and certify you nematode free. They have to physically take soil AND root samples from EVERY PLANT in an area that you want to sell or ship from, take them back to their lab and a person has to sit down and microscopically examine every sample.
This is not just limited to plants that are planted into the ground...this also applies to potted plants that have been sitting ON the ground.
WHen I had my sampling done, each sample cost $35 to analyze.
It is VERY IMPORTANT to note, however, for other people who may be reading this, that nematodes only survive in certain conditions. That is why the states that quarantine against them are all "Southern Tier" and Southwestern (TX, LA, CA, HI, AZ). They cannot survive where the ground freezes or it gets too cold. They also don't like desert conditions. So, it is okay to trade from FL to colder states. Even GA and AL are too cold for nematodes.
Arizona is a special case for plant police. I really can't figure AZ out. They are so paranoid about plant pests that they require a phytosanitary certificate for everything, from every state if I recall correctly. And no one can figure out exactly what they think they are protecting. Its not as if they are a huge food producing state, like CA or TX or LA. There are many retail FL growers who just won't ship to AZ because its too much red tape. It costs about $50 to get a phyto in FL to ship to AZ.
I had no idea!!! I know when we travel to Fla. as we go to cross into the state there is a Ag station that inspects plants & vegetables I just wasn't real sure why!!!!
I have a Colocasia 'Chicago Harlequin' pup to trade for a 'Corozon' pup if you are interested.
Thank you pepper, I appreciate the offer, but I grow huge stands of Chicago Harlequin in the bog on our property. They are very invasive here. I also have large stands of Imperialis and Black Magic, lots of fontanesii, and a lot of Xanthosoma sagitifolia, which is also an invasive plant in Florida.
I am kind of looking for other more unusual species of alocasias in trade. I do grow the lauterbachii that jeri mentioned, its a really nice plant. ALso grow variegated macrochizza, Xanthosoma Mickey Mouse, Colocasia Yellow SPlash and Colocasia Elepaio (aka Milky Way)
Ok. :~)
Wow,
That's news on the nematode stuff. I know they exist in many areas but this is the first time I've heard of the bans in those states. I know CA requires bareroot shipping but wasn't aware of other restrictions and I have traded all over the country. I will have to go check the website.
These restrictions are not new, they have been in place for many years. The thing is, most people have no idea. The subject of plant trading has never actually been addressed by the USDA. They are fully aware that it goes on, but the only means that they have of stopping it is to open boxes and inspect plants in the mail.
These laws were actually written for people who sell plants, BUT, I can assure you, they actually apply to every one who sends any plant in the mail over a state line. Most states have a "citation" form that, if they "catch" you sending something illegal, they will fill out and mail to you, citing exactly which statutes you have failed to adhere to in their state. Most of the statutes constitute 3rd degree felonies, not just misdemeanors (at least, here in FL they do). Most have a box at the bottom that designates the "offender" as either "Commercial" (ie, someone licensed and registered with the state as a grower/nursery person/owner etc) or "Private" (ie, Joe the Trader).
The state that you "offend" does not actually come after you, they turn it over to YOUR state of residence to get you.
Please let me stress, trading is not a problem between the majority of states as long as you are complying with the rules and regulations of the states you live in and ship. It doesn't mean that you have to stop sending Aunt Mary in Kalamazoo gifts from your collection.
But everyone should be aware of and adhere to the regulations of the states that grow the majority of our food crops, in order not to endanger our food supply by importing detrimental pests where they don't already exist.
That is why, for me, the states of CA, LA, TX, HI and AZ are just, 'off limits'. Its easier to ship nothing to those states than to try to pick and choose what might or might not be legal.
Goth,
I would be interested in a trade and maybe if you are interested, we could save some postage. I live out past Archer and go to work around Gainesville almost daily.
Maybe I could interest you in 1 small Stingray EE and some Teacup EE, a/k/a coffee cup EE.
Along with what you are posting, I would also wonder if you could spare a pup of the Alo. Mac variegata?
If you were interested, we might get together out here and you could take a look at anything else that might interest you, having a bog and all. I have 2 ponds here as well as a lot of dry sandy ground and grow most anything that doesn't hate me for it.
Molly
Hi Molly,
I have both the Tea Cups and the Stingray, but maybe we can arrive at some other trade. Perhaps we should take it private
Sounds good to me Goth.
Molly