Philodendron micans - Any interest?

Greensburg, PA

Note thread heading is incorrect - talking about Philodendron micans, not miranda.

Mine has a tendency to run out, and I need to cut it back. I'm willing to start some cuttings to rooting this fall for possible spring trades if there is interest.

This message was edited Oct 23, 2008 2:36 PM

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Krowton, I love philodendrons but I don't know what the Miranda is, and I can't find a picture on plantfiles. However, I don't know if I would have anything you would be interested in anyway. Just for kicks, can you send a picture? Thanks, Jeanette

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Krowton, I love philodendrons but I don't know what the Miranda is, and I can't find a picture on plantfiles. However, I don't know if I would have anything you would be interested in anyway. Just for kicks, can you send a picture? Thanks, Jeanette

For some reason this won't send, so if you get several, that is why.

Louisville, KY

Sure, I'd love a bit of that. Please look at my haves.Thanks

Navarre, FL(Zone 8b)

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/149228/

Is your plant by any chance this plant spelled 2 different ways? (Picture is spelled: Polypodium Mandianum) It is a fern that looks like a philodendron.

Pam

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Navarre, FL(Zone 8b)

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/73797/

Or maybe this one?

Greensburg, PA

Oops, my bad. I'm ususally pretty good with ID's, but messed this one up. I was actually talking about my P.micans. Sorry...

heres some references

http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39604
http://www.denverplants.com/foliage/html/phimic.htm

Think 'Devil's Ivy" except the leaves are red underneath and semi-transparent green on top. Makes the whole leaf look sort of velvety red. This is definitely a philo, as I had some people confirm the ID. This one does not do good for me. When I obtained the plant, the leaves were 3-4" long, but for me they stay 1-2" and tend to do a single leave every 4-6" of stem.

Note that the picture in the second reference is far too green for what I have seen with mine. Don't know if there is a redder color variant, but mine has stayed consistently red for me.

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(Zone 1)

Here's the link to Plant Files for the Velvet Leaf Philodendron. Philodendren scadens subsp micans: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/90662/

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Krowten, whatever it is I would love to have some of it. I'll pay for the postage. Will send address via dmail. Jeanette

Whoops, I got so confused with all of the above, that I forgot to look at your trade list. Sorry. I will do that now and then let you know if I have anything.

This message was edited Oct 23, 2008 6:07 PM

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Well, Krowten, I don't see any want items, just have items. If you decide on something you want to trade let me know and if I have it maybe we can work something out.

Jeanette

South Florida, FL(Zone 10b)

I would love some. Please check my trade list to see if I have anything you are interested in.

Greensburg, PA

Hi, all. I'll start some cuttings. Please d-mail me in the spring. Regarding trades, I am mostly interested in zone 5 hardy edibles or other warmer zones that go dormant in winter that can be grown in pots. Also collecting a few ee's, oxalis and rhipsalis - prefered named ones. I have a growing hen & chicks collection, so also looking for hardy named ones from Sempervivum, Jovibarba and Rosularia. Don't worry too much about a trade, I'd be willing to do for postage for nice members of Dave's.

Does a rooted 5-6" rooted cutting work for you guys or do you need something longer? By my count I currently need to do at least 4 cuttings??

Dave's deleted my trade lists a year or two back, so I'll a little reluctant to redo them, plus interests do change.

Louisville, KY

That length works for me. Thank you so much.
I'll keep my peepers peeled for something on your want list.

South Florida, FL(Zone 10b)

That works for me too.
Thanks so much!

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Same here. What is a hardy edible? You mean like a shrub, tree, or?

I've just been out collecting seeds in my sister's yard but the only edibles are trees. Like apples, plums, prunes.

Jeanette

Greensburg, PA

Jeanette, Zone 5 stuff that you can eat. could be a bush, perennial or shrub. Tree's that get large are not practical 'cause most of my stuff is in pots (I rent). I mostly do the weird stuff - growing kiwi, gooseberries, bush cherries, currants, wintergreen, yacon, white strawberries, blueberries, arctic raspberries, nanking cherries lingonberries, etc. Pretty much stuff that will take the climate or can be put in the basement dormant for the winter that doesn't need a lot of space.

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

I don't know what zone you are, probably 5 or 6? You can't leave stuff out in pots either can you? Sure is a pain dragging them in and out isn't it?

I tried leaving a tree peony out in a large pot a couple winters back because the book said they were good to zone 3. Forget it. Just doesn't work.

Jeanette

Greensburg, PA

I have a tree peony in the ground and it does not have any issues here in zone 5. Some stuff in pots outside require the pot to be sunk in the ground overwinter. I think its related to drying out the roots during periods when there is no snow cover. I do have a lot of stuff that stays out in pots overwinter, but from time to time I might add a bit of water if there is no snow cover and the pots are not in the ground. Depends on recent temps and weather.

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

I have heard that the biggest problem is that they freeze in the bottom and can't drain so the roots are sitting in water and rot. I think there are all kinds of theories because I tipped it over to drain but it still died.

I just think they need the insulation of the mass of ground around and under them. That with a good snow pack for insulation takes care of most that should survive those zones.

Greensburg, PA

Jeanette, Well, I haven't done tree peony in a pot so cannot say. Have you read the sticky in the "Container" forum by tapla. Al addresses some issues with drainage in pots that might be relevant. For the past two years, I've been incorporating porous silica and wicks in my larger containers, with good results. That sticky was the inspiration. Been using lots of pine bark mini nuggets for years prior to that.

It is well worth the read.

Having roots exposed above ground does tend to decrease the hardiness zone of the climate for plants in pots.

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Yes, I did read that and most of my pots especially the larger ones have the wicks and bark. Also Watersorb. But, just can't take care of everything I guess.

Greensburg, PA

I know what you mean. As i pot upsize or repot things, I put in wicks and use the new soil mixes.

Eunice, MO(Zone 5b)

I would definitely like to part of your "wants cutting list" I am still working on my have's list. It is not very long. Maybe we can work something out?

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