Need an ID without a Picture, I don't know the Name

New York & Terrell, TX(Zone 8b)

It Doesn't look like a Spider Lily!

It must be a Texas Native plant, 'cause the Lawnmower Guy shredded them mowing the lawn this past Saturday. He said he sees them in a lot of lawns around here.

Red umbrells (spelling?) - red slender petals alternating around it.

Stalk - 10 to 12 inches tall; just the stem with with the flower/buds.

It makes a bulb.

Since the heads & stems were cut off; it has grown out some green/pale green leaves where the stems once stood.

They started to come up around the End of September. The Lawn looked dry & scorched.

Does anyone know what it might be?

They really looked delicate & lacy. I'm moving the bulbs to a brick enclosed area, near where they were growing out.

Thank you,

~* Robin

Dayton, TX(Zone 9a)

Could be what is called a Hurricane Lily, Lycoris Radiata.

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Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

Yes, I agree with kenefick. What is the Lycoris radiata and around here, commonly called "naked ladies". They pop up in the fall usually after a good soaking rain (hence the name hurricane lily). Always a delightful surprise.

A word of advice tho, before you move them leave them till the foliage dies down and don't let anyone mow it down. The foliage is how it stores nutrients for the coming bloom season. That lawnmower guy has "no couth"! LOL

Garland, TX(Zone 8a)

Hmmm... I have always called lycoris radiata spider lilies!

New Waverly, TX(Zone 8b)

I thought they were "surprise" or school house lilies.

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

LOL ~ yes, I've heard all of those names too...

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

NatureWalker, did the blooms look like this?
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/54021/

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

I am betting it was the Spider Lily also. Here is the link with pictures on it.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/2109/
Like Pbtxlady says we call them bare naked ladies here; due to the blooms on a bare stem.

Katy, TX(Zone 8b)

I'm w/the ones who say it is a Spider Lily, Naked Lady, Lycoris Radiata. Love those things!!

Ann

(Karen) Frankston, TX(Zone 8a)

all my life I called those a spider lily, my mom told me I was wrong once, but that's still what I call them! They were the first plant I EVER planted in a yard, gathered in an arrangement down my driveway but I was so dissappointed in years to come because their bloom time is so little out of a whole year....I do like them though!

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

I'm voting for Oxblood Lily (Schoolhouse Lily). They come up around Labor Day. They come in red and the very rare pink. I acquired both this year from Deb, but only my reds came up. I think my pinks were not planted deep enough.

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

LOL!! I see just NOW that Naturewalker put on her first post that they were NOT spider lilies!! LOL!!
So Naturewalker.....were they the Oxblood Lilies or do we need to try again???

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

Here's a pic of mine from a month or so ago. It's only one flower and it's not a great pic, but maybe this will help you.

I noticed a bit ago while I was working out in the flower bed, that my pinks are coming up!! Woohoo!



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Dayton, TX(Zone 9a)

Don't know for sure which Naturewalker has, but we're looking a two distinctly different flowers. Here's a closer view of the "Hurricane Lily". Our own name for it has been Anniversary Lily because it always seems to bloom around our wedding anniversary, Sep 16. From what I've been able to check, it's not really a lily, but a member of the amaryllis family.

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(Karen) Frankston, TX(Zone 8a)

I'm still voting for Schoolhouse lily, Hurricane, spider lily et al.....Even a yard man would know those grow like weeds in alot of yards, vacant lots, etc. and are "sort of" a wild plant every where, they look different than a planned planting.....Sorry, wish I could help

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Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

Not to be contrary, but don't the schoolhouse lilies show foliage with the bloom stalks?
The "nekkid ladies" send up bloom stalks.
After the blooms die down, the foliage puts in an appearance.

(Karen) Frankston, TX(Zone 8a)

your right podster, the naked ladies have no foliage until they are through blooming...Hmmmm....

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

The school house lilies come up naked too, the foliage comes after the flowers.

New York & Terrell, TX(Zone 8b)

Well, thank you all so very much for all of the replies!!

But it does seem to be that kenefick was right with his ID after all.

I thought Red Spider Lilies were these ones here:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/9903/

I never knew that there were so many different "Naked Ladies" or "Spider Lilies!!

~* Robin ... (blushing)

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

Well there you have it... if we don't get a final decision from NatureWalker, we will have a spit decision I guess.

But, seeing as the bloom description was "delicate & lacy", I'm sticking with the Lycoris radiata... contrary pod here.

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Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

I think what you thought and Kenefick showed are the same thing, I call them spider lilies too.
That is why common names can be so confusing.

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

Oops sorry, posted slowly there. That is the confusion when there are so many common names. Pretty blooms though!

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

Actually, I get a little bit of foliage on my Oxblood lilies before the bloom stalk comes up. Here's a pic of the foliage prior to the bloom stalk. The bloom stalk comes up between the foliage a few days later.

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Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

I had taken a peek at your earlier photo and wasn't sure if I was seeing foliage or more bloom stalks. They are a pretty flower, are they fragrant? I am a sniffer and the Lycoris radiata have no odor. Pretty blooms are always made prettier when they smell wonderful.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Well, I guess it depends on the particular plants you may have, mine come up with no foliage.

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

I suspect there are many different cultivars.

I was so surprised to know the Lycoris could also be white or pink or yellow. Frostweed, do you know if it would be considered a TX native?

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

I think neither the Spider lily nor the Schoolhouse or Oxblood lilies are native to Texas, but are very well adapted. The Oxblood is considered an heirloom and sells for a very hefty price, as much as $9.00 per bulb, and can hardly be found in nurseries.

Garland, TX(Zone 8a)

Are the oxbloods the same as schoolhouse lilies?

I haven't ever seen either one for sale at the usual nurseries in Texas, but Old House Gardens carries both.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

They are expensive and difficult to find. The third link lists sources.

http://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog/Current/page73.html
http://www.southernbulbs.com/oxblood-lily/
http://www.zanthan.com/gardens/plants/rhodophiala.html

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

Thanks, I was curious as in east TX, I see these popping up in most unusual places... Bulbs of all sorts are a weakness here.

Josephine, Arlington, TX(Zone 8a)

Yes, Oxblood and Schoolhouse lilies are the same thing.

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Gee Veronica, they weren't that expensive or difficult for you to find, were they?

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Hi Debbie, I've done it before. LOL I've seen a few drifts around abandoned farm houses. I wish I knew who owns the property now.

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Done what before? I'm referring to your order of 9 red of them on 8/11/2008.

Fort Worth, TX(Zone 8a)

I got mine from Debbie (dmj1218) earlier this year off the DG Marketplace or Classifieds, don't remember which. Planted them, then forgot them until they started coming up.

Hey Debbie, my reds have come up and have one getting ready to bloom. The pinks just put up shoots this week. Must've been the rain we had recently!

Stephanie

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

It was MarketPlace Stephanie (but same things are on website as on MarketPlace)--they should be more settled in next season, both pink and red have been blooming off and on this year for me--some of the pink last week. But it hasn't been a normal weather year down here either--in fact, about as far off normal as it could be.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Debbie, I was referring to the search for Oxblood lilies in general. I saw a site that wanted $9.00 a bulb. I haven't gone near the Marketplace for a while (dangerous place for my pocketbook) and didn't search there when looking for sources this time.

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