Many of you may have never seen pox wet or dry and i wanted to share these next pics but beware it's not pretty!
Pox Pics {{ Not for the sensitive}}
This is my Beautiful Sport Mille Fleur Roo this is the Dry Pox on his Comb it's responding well to the iodine.
This is the wet pox you can tell how swollen his tongue is and his throat.
In this one you can Actualy see the Growth on his tongue. You can tell it is literaly growing on his tongue and this is improved his tongue was twice this size and the yellow growth was the size of a peanut.
I swab his mouth with iodine and remove as much of the yellow as i can and the iodine is working really well he can now make his little tuck tuck noise.
Glad you shared these pics now we know what to look out for.
Sheila
Your Welcome i think it's important to share as much as we can here because you never know when somebody is going to need it.
yes, thanks for sharing harmny
Thank you. It does look painful.
That's what I was thinking.. OUCH! Poor guy! He is so lucky to have you caring for him Harmony! Thank you for posting that.. very valuable info.
Poor guy!
OHHHHHHHH, I feel so sorry for him. I hope he gets better soon. Thanks for the info. I have only had the dry pox and it was not so awful.
because of your post I have been able to identify what's wrong with a hen a friend gave me. When I got her she had a ping pong size ball of that cottage cheesey stuff in her throat. She could not eat or drink. I opened her mouth and was able to break it up and get it out. She still had some of it in the back of her throat. I have started the iodine treatment in hopes that it will dry it up and she will recover. She is just skin and bones and I fear she will not have enough reserve energy to make it.
Thanks again for the info
Inbetween if you can keep the growth down she will be able to eat and drink.
All the ones i have with the mouth pox still eat and drink only 1 hen is a little thin and thats because her throat was so swollen but she's well now and it took 11 days to completely shrink the swelling.
The iodine should do the trick but remember it's spread by food and water and i would keep her isolated until you are sure she's safe to be with the others.
Thanks for posting those Harmony - while they are sad to look at, they are a great education for us all. Appreciate you taking the time to take the photos that show this problem so well for us. Hope the recovery is progressing well for all affected birds.
Claire
I didn't want to waste any time.
Harmony helped me identify the pox on my Serama Roo, Gibson. Many of you have seen him before. Luckily, because 1 grew so rapidly and Harmony was on the board to help me tonight, I think we caught in the beginnings stages. So, I wanted to post some pictures of him in this stage, too.
I put all my pics in dated file folders, so I will post before and after to help show you all.
ALSO, I hope this post ENCOURAGES you to get your chix vaccinated. If I'd have had ANY idea, I would have confirmed w/ the breeder that I bought from, and if the weren't vaccinated, I would have got it done right away.
I couldn't find a lot of info on Pox in Seramas, but did find this info on worldfederationserama forum that I don't belong to:
Prevention and Control of Fowl Pox in Backyard Chicken Flocks1
Gary D. Butcher, D.V.M., Ph.D. and Fred Rossi, Ph.D.2
During the past several years there has been a great upsurge of interest in maintaining small backyard poultry flocks. These birds are raised for hobby, show and food. Though owners have much interest in their birds, the health status is often overlooked. Several diseases which are easily vaccinated against need to be considered in their health management programs. One such disease is fowl pox.
Pox is a relatively slow spreading viral infection of chickens characterized by scab-like lesions on the skin of the unfeathered body parts and/or diphtheritic (wet) membranes lining the mouth or air passages. It has been present in chickens since earliest times and is found throughout the world. Infection with the fowl pox virus will cause the chickens to have poor growth, poor feed conversion and a precipitous fall in egg production. Mortality will seldom be marked if the lesions are limited to the skin. However, death may occur if the oral cavity or air passages become involved.
The disease may occur in any age bird, primarily during the warm months of the year. The virus is stable and can be transmitted by direct contract with an infected chicken or by mosquitoes.
Pox is readily diagnosed by a veterinarian based on flock history, presence of typical lesions, and in some instances by microscopic examination of affected tissues and virus isolation studies.
There is no treatment for fowl pox. Control and prevention in chickens is accomplished by vaccination by the wing web method with a commercially available fowl pox or pigeon pox vaccine. This should be administered to all chickens at 12-16 weeks of age. Vaccinated birds should be examined for takes about seven to ten days following inoculation. A take consists of swelling of the skin or a scab at the site where the vaccine was applied.
A high percentage of chickens showing reaction (takes) indicates a satisfactory vaccination. The absence of a take could be the result of vaccine being administered improperly, use of a vaccine with inadequate potency (improperly stored or used after expiration date), or vaccine being applied to an immune bird.
Precautions should be taken when administering the pox vaccine as it is a live type of virus vaccine. Because the pox vaccine produces a mild form of the disease, only healthy birds should be vaccinated. It is strongly recommended that all chickens in a house be vaccinated on the same day. The vaccine must be applied only to the vaccination site, and precautions taken to prevent contamination of other parts of the chicken, the premises and the equipment. Mosquito control should also be part of the preventive program.
These simple precautions will provide protection to your chickens, and allow you to enjoy and raise your flock free of this disease.
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2. Gary D. Butcher, D.V.M., Ph.D., Avian Veterinarian and Fred Rossi, Ph.D., former Avian Nutritionist, College of Veterinarian Medicine, University of Florida, Cooperative Extension Service, Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences, University of Florida, Gainesville FL 32611.
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THE PICTURE BELOW IS GIBSON ON 9/19/08
HERE IS A PICTURE OF GIBSON TODAY, 10/12/08
LEFT SIDE
GIBSON FRONT:
GIBSON RIGHT SIDE:
*Notice the pox at about 4 o'clock on his eye. Harmony actually lost a bird when the pox got in the eye. View more info on this thread. I will post pics during the healing process...as he hopefully heals.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/912287/
Thanks.
Best wishes that Gibson will heal quickly - you are SO lucky to have Harmony's experience and help to guide you through this! What a wonderful reminder of why DG is such a valuable resource to all of us chicken lovers!
Exactly, Claire :)
I just found this online, too. I was looking for particular pox associate w/ Serama. Now, when I searched "remedy", I found this on the poultry site. Still nothing specifically about the Serama breed, so if anyone else has had the POX experience w/ Seramas, please post here. What a downer:
Introduction
A relatively slow-spreading viral disease characterised by skin lesions and/or plaques in the pharynx and affecting chickens, turkeys, pigeons and canaries worldwide. Morbidity is 10-95% and mortality usually low to moderate, 0-50%. Infection occurs through skin abrasions and bites, or by the respiratory route. It is transmitted by birds, fomites, and mosquitoes (infected for 6 weeks).
The virus persists in the environment for months. It is more common in males because of their tendency to fight and cause skin damage, and where there are biting insects. The duration of the disease is about 14 days on an individual bird basis.
Signs
Warty, spreading eruptions and scabs on comb and wattles.
Caseous deposits in mouth, throat and sometimes trachea.
Depression.
Inappetance.
Poor growth.
Poor egg production.
Post-mortem lesions
Papules progressing to vesicles then pustules and scabs with distribution described above.
Less commonly there may, in the diptheritic form, be caseous plaques in mouth, pharynx, trachea and/or nasal cavities.
Microscopically - intra-cytoplasmic inclusions (Bollinger bodies) with elementary bodies (Borrel bodies).
Diagnosis
A presumptive diagnosis may be made on history, signs and post-mortem lesions. It is confirmed by IC inclusions in sections/ scrapings, reproduction in susceptible birds, isolation (pocks on CE CAM) with IC inclusions. DNA probes.
Differentiate from Trichomoniasis or physical damage to skin.
Treatment
None. Flocks and individuals still unaffected may be vaccinated, usually with chicken strain by wing web puncture. If there is evidence of secondary bacterial infection broad-spectrum antibiotics may be of some benefit.
Prevention
By vaccination (except canary). Chickens well before production. Turkeys by thigh-stick at 2-3 months, check take at 7-10 days post vaccination. There is good cross-immunity among the different viral strains.
Here's and update on the pox pics this is the roo thats on this thread just look at the difference.
I posted the first pick oct 10 and today is the 23 it's hard to believe that in 13 days he is this much better
Here's the pox on his head
Here is the crelle hen with the problem pox i have had a hard time getting these to dry up.
She didn't get the wet pox.
Closeup
White face black spanish this is what a pox looks like.
Pox on wattle of wfbs.
I am giving an update, too. Been meaning to do this, but with all that has been going on, barely have time to clip my nails!
Took new pics a few days ago. The girls may lose their combs because they are virtually covered w/ the pox and they are always scratching at them.
Gibson, the hot roo, is doing so much better! Sushi is in the beginning stages, but also has the stress of the other 2 shunning him and chasing him away...but I just don't have anywhere else to put him right now by himself, and would rather keep all the pox birds together.
So....drum roll please...
here is the NEW GIBSON (you can sorta see the girls in this pic, too)!
Their individual pics will follow->
Here's his other side...
He is crowing (in the slighted Serama way)
Forgot to mention, Harmony, the pox on Gibson's eyes have nearly diminished as of LAST NIGHT! Woo Hoo!!!
Here is Myrtle
Millie, who is very swollen on her comb
and sushi...who only has the little black specks (they look just like black heads) at the moment and one large one on about the same area of his comb as Gibson's really big infected one. I think w/ started w/ the iodine early enough on Sushi to keep it at bay.
That poor little crelle of yours, Harmony. It literally looks like the pox is eating away at her comb.
Ugh..I'm off to start a BEAUTIFUL POSITIVE POST (gotta get away from the negative for a bit) of the new POX BABIES!
All 7 hatched!
~music
Music I'm glad yours are getting better are you still going to vaccinate.
I only vaccinated because i wanted to save the 40 chickens the pain of going threw the pox.
I went back threw the threads and found out my first case of pox was Sept 10th i didn't know it had been that long.
Holy cow..that's over a month ago...mine was 10/12. But, yes, I am going to vaccinate. I have the 4- 1 month old seramas, a 6 week old silkie, a 2 week old cochin, & frizzle and serama, and now 7- day or 2 old seramas! That's a huge flock! (haha...for me, that is).
But I also have 12 sizzles in the bator and 8 black copper maran eggs on the way, 15 button quail in another 'bator, and 3 black copper maran pullets to p/u this weekend. Also going to share w/ my bro-n-law who has over 75 chooks. They live about 7 miles away and have JUST as many mosquitos!
So, answer is YES :) All my birds live in chicken TRACTORS, so they are exposed to ground, which means scabs are on the ground. Eventually many of my babies will be taking sand baths in that ground, etc. And I bought to sell, too., so gotta keep everyone healthy.
~music♪♫