Strange FISH in my pond

I only have 2 gold fish left, the largest is 6'' long. I have had so much trouble with my fish and pond I have had 16 fish to die. Now a few days ago I saw some dark fish in my pond 4''-7'' long. I think my son put some brim or perch in the pond, he want say so, but a few days before I first saw the new fish they had drained a large pond. One of the fish has some gold on its sides, it and my largest gold are chasing each other around. I just know they are spaning, I even have some foam in my pond. I know I will have to get them out. Has anyone ever had such a thing as this?

Drain the pond and get them out. Goldfish will often be dark when they are young but will usually start showing their adult coloration in a month or two. It is possible for them to stay dark but very unlikely.

It is considered "Good Luck" to have some dark fish in a Pond. Your dark fish are probably Comets and are a type of Goldfish,but they are very prolific. I had some and they never did turn orange.

So, Good Luck to you☺

I have a few myself. I think they came in on some waterplants. Some are starting to turn orange. One has a really long tail and is starting to get a white belly. Kind of fun to see what developes...

They are not Comets, one of the two I have is a small Comet I bought this year. Evesta they didn't come in on plants because I don't have any new ones. My sons confessed one of them put 10 of them in the pond, I have been able to get 7 of them out, but it sure is hard to do they are fast and smart. I think they are brim, the guys had no idea it would be a real problem. But I really have had a lot of problems with my fish sick and dying this year and I still haven't found the real cause, over several months I have tried just about everything I can think of. I have had a lot of help from the bunch on DG, I don't know what i would have done without you all. My entry was June 24," MY FISH ARE DYING" and now I'm faced with yet another problem, If it would help I would like to just ring their necks, but they aren't boys but men playing what they thought of as a prank. Thanks everyone for trying to help,wish me luck, let me know if you have anymore thoughts. Katherine

Good Luck Katherine! It sounds as though you are on the right path. Ponding certainly has its problems, but well worth it in the long run☺

The tall,pink flowering plant in this pic turns out to be a noxious plant called loosestrife and I had to destroy it 2 days ago. So it is not just fish in the pond tha can cause all the trouble☻

Loosestrife is "noxious"? Grows around my ponf completely inoffensively. Grows "almost" as a weed along fitches and in constantly wet areas in the region, but fails in dry soil. Whatever is "noxious" about this old standard of medieval abbey gardens?

I am still in shock over this plant. I got on the Internet to find out about its name and found out it is banned in Wisconsin and a big fine is levied for growing it. There are environmentalists trying to get the word out about how destructive it is to native plants. It sucks in all the nutrients,native plants die, and the wildlife which feeds on native plants dies too.

Maryland and several other States are having an awful time with it clogging waterways and ruining wetlands.Some varieties such as the Purple loosestrife are more destructive than others but it said all Loosestrife should be destroyed.

Maybe that's because it's not native to you?
It IS native here.
In fact, it is so "innocuous" that it is widely sold by nurseries.
(Of course, many of those same nurseries sell that noxious American weed, Solidago (Goldenrod), which is really invasive!)
I have never seen Lythrum salicaria "suck out nutrients" (it is always surrounded by healthy growth of numerous other species); clogging waterways (it just does not thrive in running water or open waterways); or "ruining wetlands". Its a "marginal" plant in every sense of the word: not only foes it hug the margins, its existence beyond a very limited environment requires human cultivation.
Is this another example of "homeland security"? Maybe "Maryland and several other States" have neglected their waterways for so long that Purple Loosestrife has been able to establish itself in shallow waters and the "clogging" is now being blamed on a "foreign" plant rather than domestic neglect?

I've grown this plant for years and it has never appeared in any neighbour's garden. It grows all over the area beside (but never IN) ditches, but has never been considered a hazard. Maybe it's the McDonald's effect? Your soil is just so rich?
But, in your pond, from the photo, it does not seem either very strong/healthy or likely to invade the Homeland.

Potagere - Lythrum salicaria is a serious invasive plant crowding out many native species in the US. It is not a problem of neglecting waterways. Many natural waterways in the US are meant to be left in their natural state and don't require maintenance other than the removal of exotic invasive species.

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/dnap/invasive/4loosestrife/tabid/1999/Default.aspx

As for the McDonald's analogy don't you just love what they do with the pomme fritts. An improvement - no?

BTW the invasive Goldenrod I know of is Solidago canadensis scabra. Don't you and Canada share a Queen or something?

Please, come visit us. Visit our poor, neglected, clogged waterways. Bring all that bad Solidago with you, drop it off in your sister country (it's really close) and we'll send you home with all the Lythrum salicaria.

snapple, yeah, it's gotta be the McDonald's effect! Local Lythrum is just too meek and mild to threaten anything. It certainly does not act like the loosestrife described by the ODNR. In gact, I've never seen it looking like it foes in their photos! Both wild and in my garden it looks a lot more like the one pictured by posyblossom: a nice, tame plant with lovely flowers.

On the other hand, goldenrod, an exotic (mostly an invader from the Americas), blew in here on the wind one day and has taken over what used to be a pasture and orchard next door. It would consume my garden as well if the wind did not usually blow in its direction and if I did not spend guge amounts of time ripping it out. I'd be happy to ship it all to Holland! And just as happy to have your beautiful Loosestrife!

I guess it's a matter of neither plant having natural controls in their exotic habitats. Of course, in Holland, as here, Lythrum is native and Solidago is the exotic.

BTW, what is Mickey D doing with "pommes frites"?

Sorry, no queens in Grance; at least not of the sort to which you refer. Don't YOU share one with Canada?

With the Chunnel and all I thought Great Britain and France were, well, the same. My mistake.

You really must get out more, snapple!! Of course, I have the same problem with Holland and Belgium and those other "Nether" Lands! :)>

Potagere: My fondest memories of France include WAAAAAYYYY too much dog poop. I couldn't believe how much of it was everywhere and how often I didn't avoid stepping in it. Drinking and walking around Paris at night is dangerous, for the shoes! :)

Drinking and walking around Paris at night! Hhhhmmmm!
Come see France one day (Solidago, Lythrum, et al.)
Paris is wonderful, but it's not "France". Mickey D's on every other corner!

But ... I want to know: has Katherine gotten the remaining "exotics" out of her pond? Has she wrung her sons' necks? What about stopping the infections? Here in Switzerland, the legislature has just passed a new lae that, among others, establishes rights for goldfish! http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3818457.ece?Submitted=true

I have several purple loostrife and have never had a problem with it, Our local nursery sells it potted. I never had an inkling that it is considered invasive. I love mine!

I've been throughout France with my husband. I met my husband on vacation and he is European. Long distance romance on weekends-instead of meeting in his home country we rotated throughout the UK and France, Germany and Spain. Our first trip was to meet up in Paris for a weekend. I knew I had to marry him when he cleaned up the dog poop on my shoes each night! . . . the smell made me so sick. Now after two kids that smell wouldn't phase me much after diapers and spit-up!

Ahhh, memories. BTW: I don't recall even seeing a McDonald's there but this was 11 years ago. Heck, I don't go to McDonalds here so I wouldn't have noticed one there either!

Sounds great! And no, you might not notice the McD's in Paris; they have acquired some of the most expensive and elegant buildings and don't have garish arches attached! We went into one just for the chance to see the interior of the great building!