I'm a fortunate owner of two blooming kinds of crinums, one has burgundy stripes on light pink petals -- which were confirmed as Milk & Wine crinum. A group of same crinums that were devided, and transplanted at a different spot in the garden yielded this one in early August. Its characteristics are vasely difference from that of the above described crinums, though they were from the same bulbs that were originated from a home where these crinums were planted in the early 70's. Please help I.D.
I'll post several pictures for I.D. purpose (these bloomed early August in my zone).:
Heirloom crinums; specific I.D. is needed.
The pink one might be an xpowellii-type Crinum, possibly 'JC Harvey' or 'Cecil Houdyshel'.
R.
raydio, thank you for your help. Here is our pf pix of crinum x powellii:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/140012/
Here is an example of 'Cecil Houdyshel'. Additional input is needed to confirm this crinum I.D. Once confirmed, I'd like to add this pix onto DG's pf. Many thanks.
http://www.marcellescrinums.com/images/crinum-hybrids-more/Crinum-Cecil-Houdyshell-200h.jpg
It is a little difficult to tell the xpowellis and crosses with xpowellii from each other. As with many (most?) plants, the quality of the flower is quite variable depending on culture. I have Cecil and the common Dutch run of pink powelli, and at times they aren't terribly different, going by the flower alone.
Cecil's blooms are larger when well-grown, but in less than optimum conditions, the blooms, especially the last in the scape, are only as large as in a well-grown common pink. Color is paler on both in lower light, but longer-lasting. Cecil's tepals are usually fuller, that is wider, but may not fully show this under poor conditions. The central white area extends further out from the center, too. It also has a stronger fragrance.
Cecil blooms more frequently. Mine is on its fourth scape which have come one after the other, sometimes over-lapping, but the last scape after a week or so pause after the one before it.
Another difference is that the plant is sronger, stouter-growing as compared to one of equal age/culture of the common pink. Scapes are thicker too and taller. Cecil is a tetraploid, and will set seed more readily than xpowellii, which I have never gotten a seed from despite using several different pollens.
JC Harvey offsets heavily and has thinner foliage that frequently shows a couple of channels near the edges of the leaf. It blooms much less often than the common pink, which also has more substance in the leaf and lacks the extra channels down the leaf length as in JCH.
If you grow the common pink, JC Harvey and the Cecil together, you can observe the differences more readily.
But don't discount JC Harvey or another hybrid just yet. The bloom you show looks more like JCH than Cecil to my eye. Do you have any pix of the foliage? That might help some.
R.
Thanks for the pix of the foliage.
I'm seeing the two vein-like creases that indicate a good possibility of being 'JC Harvey'. The creases are most apparent in small/young bulbs and tend to show more on the tips-- say the last 4"-- on an older bulb, and the rather upright and arching foliage matches.
My best guess at this point would be JC Harvey, but do continue to question until you are fully satisfied in the ID.
Here are my JC Harveys (from last season) that have yet to bloom even though, as Crinums go, they are large enough:
R.
Thanks R.
I'll go back and exame the leaves more closely tomorrow. Thanks for sharing all the helpful info.
R. you're absolutely right on the characteristic on the leave structure. I looked at my Milk & Wine foliages once again this morning, those are bigger, thicker arching leaves.
Where as the thinner leaves on the other solid light pink variety do have those creases you've mentioned above. This is one example:
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