Hi Hotties,
I suppose I've sat here long enough looking and learning and laughing. This is my first Brug this year. Becon Lynn. Last year was my first experience with Brug's. I only had some no name pink's. However all winter long looking at all your beautiful photo's I sat and ordered. OMG!! I was getting huge plant's from Seed Sprout and got some crazy idea to start chopping them all down to make more. Well I had no problem rooting them but now there just taking forever to bloom. Guess that's what I get for being greedy!!! lol Not to mention I cramed them all into a very small area in the ground. I'm just starting to finally see bud's but only on a very few. I guess I better start reading more of all your good info so I know just how to cut them down in the fall. Something I dont really think I know how to do properly. Have a good evening!!
My first this year
I'm sorry my picture didnt go threw. Hopefully this time it will
Terrijean, wait till you have frost coming, then if you can't take the plants inside, take cuttings from them. there are several ways to do this. Some put the cuttings in water with peroxide, (change daily), and wait for little white nubbies to appear, then place in soil, others just take the cutting, and place it directly in the soil. You can lay it on it's side, or stick in the soil standing up. make sure you keep them moist at all times, but don't let them stand in water. They rot easy. Once they start growing, we feed them at least once a week with a good fertilizer. Hope this helps you.
Beautiful flowers by the way.
Linda Kay
Terrijean, if you are going to overwinter cuttings in potting soil, I suggest you take the cuttings, root them, have them potted and growing before the cuttings go indoors for the winter. However, it is not necessary to pot them in soil when overwintering cuttings. Many of your northern forum members take cuttings, sometimes large branches, and place the cuttings in buckets of water (2" - 6" deep) with or without bubblers. By the time spring comes around, the cuttings have massive roots and are ready to pot. To keep the roots of different cuttings from tangling together, growers have come up with very innovative ways of doing it.
Thank You for the info. Appriciate it. If you dont mind could you tell me where to make my cut's. I've heard so much about cutting above the Y and under the Y that I'm confused. Terri
Terri,
Whether you cut below the "Y" or above depends on the look you hope to achieve. If you want the Brug to look tree-like, make the cut as low as possible on the stem so you end up with a long "trunk" with a "Y" at the top. You can trim the top a bit leaving at least 6 nodes on each branch or branches above the "Y". If you want a shorter, bushier Brug, make the cut above the "Y". If the mother plant is large enough, you could do some of both.
Veronica
Thank You Veronica! I cant imagine trying to root a huge stalk. lol I have only tried smaller piece's but really want to try. All mine are quite big but I have only gotten 2 bloom's so far on two different brug's. Hopefully I can take a pic later on and send it. I guess I keep thinking of all that skinky water trying to root them. Maybe I should try sticking them right in dirt after I cut them. Anyway's Thank You Thank You and more Thank You! Terri
I had to laugh at the name you gave your plant, it is Becca Lynn.
Don't be affraid to stick a LARGE stem in water to root it, my large Golden Lady got split in two by the weather and I took both halves and rooted them, they rooted just as easy as small ones and now one of them have a bloom.
First you will need to give them more room, and remember when you cut them the cuts below the Y will have to Y again befor they bloom, if you have to pot them, and take them in for the winter I would sugest that you don't have too many as they are prone to get lots of problems over the winter with little varmits like mites, and gnates.
Good luck, and remember to post pictures.
Doris
lol lol I just realized the spelling to. lol Good for a morning laugh!! I will post a pic later. Thank's all. Terri
Terri,
Take a look at the size of these cuttings.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/780863/
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/470854/
If you add a little hydrogen peroxide, the water will stay clear for a longer period. If you try rooting in small containers in warm weather, the water has to be changed every few days. Bubblers in large buckets will add extra oxygen and keep the anaerobic bacteria out of the water. Someone who has tried it would have to tell you how often the water has to be changed if rooting in winter.
Rooting in soil requires that the rooting medium be kept moist. That isn't much of a problem in summer when the cutting doesn't take long to root and the newly rooted plant will be growing actively. In winter when Brugs go dormant or semi-dormant, plants should be kept on the dry side to avoid root rot. I would think rooting in soil under those circumstances would be fraught with problems.
Well you guy's are great. Cant Thank You enough. Question though? Do you think because I have so many Brug's in a tiny spot that could be why only two have bloomed so far? Hope this time my picture come's threw. Thank's All. Terri
That's a lot of root competition that each plant has to endure. While the plants look really nice and healthy, they are also completing for top space and could get rather leggy. Ideally, plants need to be about 3' apart. However, the main reason appears, at least from this one photo, to be that most have not produced that all important "Y".
Bettydee all I can say is WOW!!! I still cant believe how huge them Brug's were. I never knew they got that big.
Kareoke are you still laughing at what I called Becca Lynn?? I am!! lol I'm officially re-nameing her!! lol
Yes Bettydee your right about that. Only have a few that have that Y. I do see a couple bud's but good grief at this rate it will be winter. lol I do have a couple in pot's that both have 1 bloom's on it. Thank Goodness for that. lol
Yes terrijean it gives me a smile every time I read it.
I do think your brugs are too crowded, another problem you will have is when you dig them up to pot them the roots will all be tangled together but once you get them going you will have lots of blooms.
Well I was going to tell you the name of another one I have blooming and thought OH HECK NO. lol Charles something. lol Wonder what I would of called that one. lol Ok are you saying I have to dig up the whole darn plant's root's and all??? Oh my!! I'm starting to wonder how I got myself into this. Please explain. Terri
Well unless you are warm enough all winter to leave them out you will need to dig them up and pot them as they will not survive winter, it is either that or take large cuttings and root them. when I started I got so excited about them the first year I had 110 in the house all winter, now I have my mind back *LOL* I will have six. I do have about 10 sitting in pots outside that a DG member is getting this afternoon, one "Cuba" is blooming, one I have blooming right now is a tripple, started out a pale pinkish color now it is turning orange I will get a picture this afternoon and post it tomorrow.
This is my new brug Mon Armour De Suelle. from Seed Sprout
And these are the brugs waiting to be picked up.
110!!! In the house??? lol lol That's to funny.Picture's sure are beautiful. I suppose I lost my mind last winter to but hopefully I'll learn more about them before I buy more. lol Speaking of Seed Sprout that's where I got most of mine cause of all the good info here. Brenda sure is a nice lady and I sure hope she come's back. I do have a basement and think I better try using it this winter. I have way to many houseplant's and now Brug's. Oh boy this should be interresting. Well I'll have to wait till fall and see just how big they get and see just what I can do. Probably will just have to take cutting's. It will be interresting!! How long have you been growing Brug's??
Well the Brugs just got picked up by a happy DG member.
I have been growing them about 6yrs.
OOOOOHHHH, Kareoke, I thought that you were waiting for me to drive from Wisconsin to pick up them there brugs --- LMAO!!!!
Jan
kareoke, I believe the name of that Brug is Mon Amour de Mareuil.
Terri, Was your Brug called Charles Grimaldi?
As you add more Brugs to your collection, keeping good records of your named Brugs is important, especially if you are going to share cuttings. Misnamed Brugs are too abundant. I had a tragic accident a few months ago. My greenhouse has roll up sides. That way I can use it as a shadehouse during summer. It was still to cold outside to move my plants out. So I rolled up the side closest to a 4 X 16 metal table full of potted Brugs and Plumerias. A fierce gust of wind entangled the winch handle in the table frame. The next gust must have come from the other side, which was also open for the day. It upended the table and dumped all the pots on the floor. When I discovered the mess later that day, pots and uprooted plants were scattered everywhere. Fortunately, the Plumerias still had the original twist tie labels so all my plumerias are still named plants. My Brugs were not so lucky. Some of the name tags were still entangled in the rootball. Those I just repotted and made sure that the labels were more secure. But the majority of my "named" Brugs went from having names to being NOIDs. I have a list of Brugs that started winter on the table, but I move things around.... I may be able to ID some of the more distinctive ones, but for the most part and to be on the safe side, most will have to remain NOIDs. :-(
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Yes it's Charles Grimaldi. I have the tag in it but no way was I trying to spell it after I screwed up Becca Lynn's name. lol Oh gosh that's horrible about your tag's. I have to say I do have a few that I dont have a clue where the tag's went. I was so careful to!!
Well I was hoping for rain tonight since the last two night's it said we we're going to get some and nothing!! I've known for quit awhile my hose had a huge buldge in it and was to lazy to buy another one. Well tonight my hose was laying on my deck and my puter room over look's the deck and I heard it spraying. It finally took a dumb!! Just greatful I was here and didnt happen at night or when I was gone. So tomorrow I'll be forced to buy another one. However I do have two of them twisty one's that I never used so maybe I should just use them for the rest of the season. Bought them this spring and just never cared for them. They DONT fly back like on TV either. lol I think it's time to just shell out the money for a light weight hose.
We're in a severe drought situation again this year. Haven't had much rain. Edouard was supposed to have passed over us, but all we got was 0.23". We lucked out today and got 1" and could use lots more. Pasture grasses are mostly brown. I have to replace hte hoses often. My DH has a habit of running over them with the lawn mower.
That's funny about DH cause my DH and son dread cutting grass cause they know I'm a MESSY gardener and leave all kind's of tool's out in the yard. I'll admit I'm the kind of gardner that love's to garden but not like picking up my mess. lol I'm bad!!
I do have a question for you since your from TX. I have a cousin living there and I want to send her some Iris's that were a Aunt's that passes on. A sentamental thing. First I've never devided them so I know I'll have to get some knowledge about that but should I wait till my fall to start digging them up?? Is your fall about October like mine here in Michigan?? Also have you ever sent any plant's threw the mail and know just how I should pack them? I suppose I should make sure I can send to TX. I've noticed a couple place's where they wont send to TX. Dont know why though. Dont want to do any thing illegal. I notice most place's wont send to AZ. Do you know why? My son and wife had moved to AZ the winter of 2007 and I wanted them to send me plant's but thought I better not have them do that. When I visited it sure was a different world compared to Michigan. Breath taking!!! I visited twice in the spring and summer and did have them bring seed's home when they traveled home for good at the end of summer. After several try's I think I got a couple seed's growing. Dont have a clue what they are though. lol Have to go back threw old photos. lol
Well I hope you get some long over due water. Lot's of it to.
See terrijean your not the only one that makes mistakes, by the time I got in the house and wrote my message I had forgotten how to spell the last name, just put it down to being 82
Terri, Most states that ban certain plants do so to protect a valuable crop. Texas forbids the importation of roses, citrus, palms, camellias, nut trees plus a few others that I can't remember right now. Some like roses and camellias are allowed from a certified nursery, but citrus and nut trees can't be imported at all. Other plants are allowed if healthy. I don't have any idea what AZ prohibits.
October would be a perfect time to send your cousin divisions of your iris. When you divide the iris, remove as much soil as possible from the roots you are mailing as that adds weight to the package. Do the following:
1) Wrap the roots in several layers of damp paper towels.
2) Then wrap several layers of plastic wrap or Press-n-Seal around the damp paper towels to keep them from drying out.
3) Lay out 2 or 3 full sheets of newspaper on a flat surface.
4) Place the division (s) diagonally on one end of the newspaper sheets and start rolling the sheets around the iris, folding one end of the newspaper over to keep the iris from slipping out. If the plant is short enough, you can fold the other end of the newspaper sheets also.
5) Tape to secure. When you put the wrapped plant in a box use styrofoam peanuts or scrunched newspaper to cushion it so it won't rattle around in the box.
P.S. We got some much needed rain today, but we have a lot to go to get out of this drought.
Veronica,
Thank's a million for the info on the Iris's. Thant will help me so much in the fall. I was going to buy a book. lol I've come to find out book's are nice but I didnt need to buy the two book's on Brug's I already bought. All the info you could want is here cause of so many nice people like yourself. Everyone seem's so willing to tell the same info over and over to us newbie's. How nice!!!
Oh I got another bloom on Charles Grimaldi yesterday. Actually I was just about to pick the first one off thinking it was done blooming and it opened back up. I guess I need to be careful of that. That one sure done smell wonderful. Well so glad you got some rain. We still havent here. One of my garden's is so dry it's cracking. Look's so terrible! I suppose at this point I need to take the hose and turn it on and just leave it. lol Everyday the weather call's for a possible rain and nothing!! Again today it call's for rain. I'm sure hoping cause I'm taking care of a neighbor's veggy and flower garden's for three week's. lol Tomatoes and pepper's up the ying ying!!! I dont know what to do with them. I'm so not into tomatoes and pepper's. Well at least not that many. lol I do remember one year boiling the tomato's up and throwing them in plastic bag's for winter. I need to look that up cause I dont recall how I did it. Feel so bad cause I dont want these to go to waste. My Mother live's in a Senior place so I could take some over there. This neighbor did this for fun and has TON'S of tomatoes and all different kind's of pepper's. OMG!!! What a time for him to have to go out of time. Good grief!!! Have a great Sunday with hopefully lot's of needed rain. Terri
A picture of my DR. SUESS Tree!
Another brug pic!!
Morishidol,
Your Brug's take my breath away. How beautiful!! I'm just hoping someday I can have a quarter of the bloom's you have. lol Good job!! You must be so proud!
Terri.. well.. Keep up the good work... I'm glad to see someone planting more on top of the next than I do.... but yours should be spread out some indeed.. Ive got to move one today.. a fleur Lilac.. that was close... but now shaded too much.. and it was planted where it had been to give it the best sun... unfortunastely the mate to the south .. was a more rampant a grower.. it's ID was there... but tucked away .. and I didn'tt realize it was one I had marked for the fast track.. I just kept thinking oh that poor thing is going so slowly..
Becky.. oh... that ID mix up is such a set back.. I've started to write on the stem.. tie on a name tag.... and tuck a name tag into the pot... now I see to manage them to the best advantage.[ above problem ] . I really need a big sign on the front so it is readdily apparent just who each one is.. I had another favored one [ super spot ] that had been ovegrown by the wisteria potmate moved the other day also... I need big signs on the front of each.. so I can manage the favored plants better..
we're having the coolest..wetest August I can remember.. we even had a tornado watch in Manhatten.. [ now that's particularly scarey ] my Sang might stand a chance now.. here's hoping ya'll there get some more rain also..
Moris.. great flowering brugs there.. and plenty of time for more full flushes for you..
Gordon
I do have yet another question and if I should ask somewhere else just say so. I was given a couple banana tree's one in the winter and one this summer. I was told to put them in full sun but when I do the leaf's turn back. When I put them in a more shaded area they look so much nicer and the leave's are nice and rounded. Will they be ok in a more shaded area?? I mean they still get sun but not full sun. Thank's Terri
well they do quite well in full sun... what they and any plant doesn't like is the change from a shadey area to the sun... you have to acclimate them slowly.. a few hours a day in the full sun... or a place with a shade cloth... so they get 50% sun for a few weeks... till they are hungry for more sun... going from shade or inside to the full sun... even up where you are .. will blacken most things
Gordon
I've grown bananas in pots only, but am assuming that yours are in pots also. I am no expert on bananas, but here goes. I keep all my potted plants where they can get morning sun and either filtered sun or bright shade the rest of the day. The sun heats up the rootballs in the pots way too much and my plants suffer. The roots are damaged. The tops don't get enough water, but too much water will rot roots. It's a catch-22 situation. So plants that would require full sun when grown in the ground get part shade when grown in pots. Your bananas should be OK, but you might ask on the Tropical Plants forum. You might also try shading the pot while the tops get more sun.
Hi terri,, I grow about 15 different types of bananas and what you saw with your bananas is perfectly normal ,almost all of the bananas will look better with not seeing all day sun ,,when it is really hot out that is! all my siam bananas only see filtered morning sun and they do great but the one I planted in all day sun is half off the size of the others that received more shade,and the siam thats in the sun does not look good at all,the zebra banana also likes a more shady area,,the ones that I have in the ground get almost all day sun and they do pretty good ,I have raja puri,ice cream,glaucum,and ensete superbum,and the red aby,,banana in almost all sun,,I think alot of the not doing well in all day sun has a little to do with the plants root ball getting to warm ,verse in the ground it is much cooler!!!! Hope thi s helped a little -Jason. Heres a pic of my raja giving me banana as we speak!!
yes.. in the wild.. a young small babana will see filtered light... as they mature they grow out of the filtered light .. and bemnefit from full sun nicely.. Gordon
Thank You all for the good info. Wow just like any other plant there's so many different kind's and you could go crazy. lol Morishidol love that banana plant. Here I thought banana plant's kinda all looked alike. lol Boy was I wrong. There beautiful. I dont have a clue what kind I have since it was given to me and my friend didnt have a clue either but I've found it to be so fun to watch grow. I'm so excited cause when one leaf come's up the other is there. I do have them in pot's and hope they dont get to big when it's time to bring them in for winter cause I sure do like watching them grow.
Heres a pic of one of my Ae Ae banana in the house for the winter!!
