Variegated Seedling

Sinking spring, PA(Zone 5b)

Has this ever happened to you? I have been purchasing seed crosses on the marketplace, and out of 4 that sprouted, one Pink Perfection X Versi Peach has variegated foliage. I hope it lives- ^&$%$^*(^#@ cut worms like to hang around and get my seedlings occasionally and I had to spray tonight.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Wow! What luck. It would be fantastic if the bloom you got from it were a double and the plant a keeper. I sympathize. Grasshoppers ate the tops of 5 of my seedlings. Grrrrrr.

Sinking spring, PA(Zone 5b)

Hi Bettydee! Nice to hear from you. If it turns into any kind of something worth having, you'll get the first cutting. There was a thread recently- I didn't know what I brug was until DG.....reminds me of me! I have bought and traded for a lot of brugs and can't wait for the day I have a "real" picture to post. But, here come the stupid questions......what is a noid? What are the different types of broms? I know this has been talked about, so point me to a thread if you don't mind. Here is a pic of what I think is called a noid pink. My DH planted many years ago. Most of the year it looks like heck, and we know exactly why. Nematodes, poorly draining clay soil and mites are the major factors. But, it gets 2 really good flushes a year, and it is worth having just for that.

Also, you and well before our trade someone sent me 'Tropical Sunset.' Well, the leaves look really different. I've noticed some brugs are hairy and some aren't (as much.) Some seem to be larger than others....greener than others. Can you do any kind of ID by the leaf? The 2 tropical sunsets I received really look very different to me.

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Sinking spring, PA(Zone 5b)

Flower close up. Pink noid? Hard to kill it, and sure smells great. 10 months later, buried in the HUGE hurricane debree pile, it was rooted and growing.

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La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

It took me a while to figure out what noid meant, but it means "no identification." That is a gorgeous pink!

You will need to use a combination of hairiness, leaf margins, flower shape, flower color to some extent, calx shape, and length of corollar neck if exposed and compare each plant to the photos in the PlantFiles. One of Kell's photos is used in the official Registry of Brugmansias.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/53649/
Tomorrow, I'll go out and make sure I compare what I have as well. I don't go out back at night. Even with the dog along with me, there's too much of a chance of running into a water moccasin. I'll let you know after I look.

The seven species of Brugs and the one natural hybrid (B. flava) are divided into two groups according to ease of cross pollinization. The two groups don't normally cross with each other.

The B. aurea group includes: B. aurea, B. insignis, B. suaveolens, B. versicolor, and B. X candida (a natural aurea X versicolor hybrid)

The B. arborea group includes: B. arborea, B. vulcanicola, B. sanguinea, and B. flava (an arborea X sanguinea hybrid)

Sinking spring, PA(Zone 5b)

Thank you once again for your time and helpfulness. What would this forum be without you?

Sinking spring, PA(Zone 5b)

Someone requested I post a picture.............

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South Venice, FL(Zone 9b)

Wow, that's coooooollllll!

Winston Salem, NC

thanks for the pic. i'm keeping my fingers crossed .
happy gardening
eddie

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

fauna4flora,
I took a look at my Tropical Sunset. The leaves are entire. A few have two or three serrations on a leaf, but it's not common on the plant. It's one of the plants that survived the mass extinction I had late summer a year ago so it's still recovering and hasn't bloomed this year. I don't remember whether it bloomed early last year. So far the leaves look right for Tropical Sunset. I bought it as Tropical Sunset, but it was one of the first ones I bought on eBay and don't remember from whom I bought it. The plant will have to bloom before I can make sure whether it is Tropical Sunset or not. Does the other Tropical Sunset have entire leaves as well?

Sinking spring, PA(Zone 5b)

Thank you so much for checking. I hope you don't mind me posing this question- it was just out of general curiosity. After taking a look at the leaves again today of the two plants the difference may be more subtle than I imagined, and possibly just related to nutrient balances.

Here is Tropical Sunset #1.

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Sinking spring, PA(Zone 5b)

Here is tropical sunset #2.

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Sinking spring, PA(Zone 5b)

Here is another angle of #2. Does "waviness" make the leaf/type distinct? If you guys think I am dreaming, this would be a good time to do a leaf analysis for fun, and we can compare the readings when these two finally flower, but it would help if anyone has had multiple leaf analysis on their brugs for a comparative average history.

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Premont, TX(Zone 9b)

There are so many look alike brugs that there is noway to ID one by leave or by color.

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

em, These are two Brugs that are IDed as Tropical Sunset. One is a cutting I sent fauna4flora. I purchased it as a named Brug, Tropical Sunset.

Premont, TX(Zone 9b)

Unless you know the sellers ,sometimes when u buy from someone u dont know u cant be sure as to what u are buying.. when I started buying brugs on ebay I brought several that turned out to be something else other than what I thought I was buying. Have learned since and I have about 6 or 7 sellers that I trust and that is who I buy from now.when HG came out a few years back I paid 35.00 for a cutting and it turned out to be a frosty pink type of bloom.. By than it was to late..lol

La Grange, TX(Zone 8b)

Yes, I know. I learned that lesson several years ago. I have a rather nice pink NOID that I was supposed to have been Sliver Dawn. So far that is the only. If there were others, they were lost last year when I couldn't go out and water my plants. Only 5 survived. Now I only buy from sellers I know.

Sinking spring, PA(Zone 5b)

OK, no way to tell. To be honest, the other tropical sunset I received was from a very early trade and it was the first brug cutting I ever got. It's kind of what started the whole addiction for me when I looked up what I was sent (I think it was one of those- Oh, just send me what you think is cool, trades.) I trust Bettydee's sources, but I just thought it was interesting that there appeared to be a difference in the 2. As long as either one has a nice flower, I don't really care too much, and I am at the beginning point which is why I don't mind buying miscellaneous seed crosses and playing around with whatever surprises may come.

So far I haven't gotten any flowers yet from cuttings started in spring- even from a plant that I purchased at a show (and it's huge now!) I'm thinking maybe I'll get something by the first cool turn in late fall (usually when the first of the 2 big flushes per year on my big pink noid occur.)

Sinking spring, PA(Zone 5b)

Sad to say that little variegated seedling was chomped by a mad squirrel. Sometimes there is no rhyme or reason to their destructiveness!

Here is another oddity I noticed the other day. This brug is I believe 'milk and honey' or something like that. So.....should I have that leaf sent off to the tissue culture lab?

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