Again, I'm hoping for your advice, Plumeria Pros. I purchased this rooted Plumeria from Armstrong Gardens (So Cal) about 2.5 years ago. This is the first year it has bloomed. The tag said "yellow" without a cultivar name. The scent is very strong and sweet - it brings to mind the leighs in Hawaii. It's just a gorgeous all-around bloom and I love it. I'd really like to have a name to add to my database though, if anyone knows it.
Thanks in advance :-)
karen
Plumeria Identification?
I hate to disagree with Hetty, but I don't think it is a 'Celadine' because the white margin isn't wide enough around the outside edge of the petals and also because the petals don't look firm enough. 'Celadine' has very dark shiny leaves, and yours don't look that dark to me.
I feel it is just an unnamed yellow, which can't be entered into PlantFiles and shouldn't be as a named cultivar since it's name isn't certain. It is really important that we not put the generic colors in PlantFiles as named ones even though we want to share our lovely pictures. I know I have many lovely unnamed ones that can't go into PlantFiles.
If you will look carefully at the picture below, you will see the pronouced white edges around the petals of the flowers. They can also be seen here: http://www.plumeria101.com/master_gallery/celadine.html
Hetty, I see a more pronounced margin in your 'Celadine' than I see in Karen's. Karen's yellow color extends nearly to the edge of the petal without a pronounced margin of white. Her flower has the yellow coloration closer to 'Aztec Gold,' but she lacks the thick band of pink on the back for it to be that cultivar. I agree that different areas can change the brightness of the colors and bring about more of the red spectrum due to heat and humidity differences, but it wouldn't change the white margin in a 'Celadine.' JMHO.
There is a thread concerning the identification of flowers from pictures and why we try not to do it for anyone seeking a name from a photograph: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/687547/
I believe one way to identify a Celadine is the extra vein in the margin of the leaf.
Aramantha, you can add your plant to your have list but don't have to add it to the database. That's how I do it. That way you will have a list of it for trading purpose. I will Dmail you with instructions.
Wow, you guys are so good with the details. What about this one? Can you analyze for me? I'm really not looking for id, I just like it how you just know your plumies so well, down to the veining.
Looks like the one I got form the CO-Op?
I need more container plants like I need a hole in my head....
I think it does but it's been so long since I've seen flowers.... I can't be sure. I'll let you know hopefully later this year. It tends to bloom late in the summer, almost into fall.
Thanks for all the great information! I wasn't going to add it to the Plant Files, I just wanted to know for my own personal plant database :-) It will now be known officially as "yellow", lol ;-)
Lili, I'm with you - if I get many more potted plants, I'll have to get a smaller bed, lol ;-)
karen
I got the yellow Plumeria from my dad who got it from an uncle who brought it back from Vietnam (somehow? may be seeds?). I never really thought about asking because I didn't really care, I just thought it was so pretty.
Anyway, dad thought it was dead when all the leaves shed in the winter and it went dormant. He didn't know anything about Plumeria and neither did I. He put the container outside and around April, it started sprouting. It was in a zone 8 so I guess it made it through the winter fine. Anyway, he was going out of the country, so he brought up to give it to me to take care of it. He did not know the American name of the plant, only their Vietnamese name. He told me it was flowers they used for leis in Hawaii. I didn't know what kind of flower it was but I could visually see it. One day, I was at on of those bath store and it sold a Plumeria soap and I saw the flower picture on front of it and thought it could be the flower of the plant that I had. I went home and searched for it on the Internet. Still, I didn't know for sure because I still hadn't seen the flowers on that plant yet, just leaves.
Later that year, my father and I took a trip together to Vietnam. We saw some Plumeria flowers on the ground and my father told me that's what I had that he had given me and I've been "hooked" on Plumeria since then!
Thanks Dutchlady. I wished I could have seen all the trees in bloom while I was in Vietnam. They were leafless and they were everywhere. Some of them have metal poles underneath them to support them. At first, I didn't know about them going dormant in the winter and I thought, why would they keep all those "dead" trees. LOL! So clueless.
Lili, I know where Hetty was going, and I agree with her. It looks like 'Aztec Gold,' but as I said before, it is hard to tell from a picture, but a strong scent of peaches would help to indicate that it might be 'Aztec Gold.'
Davie, you are right. 'Aztec Gold' was distributed as a yellow at the co-op.
Josegabriele, that is true, but seedlings of 'Celadine' have the extra vein too as well as other cultivars like 'Vishanu Gold,' 'Bali Whirl,' etc. so it isn't really a definitive trait; however, 'Celadine' has very dark green glossy leaves that seem to stand out among the others.
