Comparison: Penang Peach Vs. Som Garasin

Clare was talking about never comparing Penang Peach and Som Garasin...Well Clare you're in luck...I just did a side by side comparison for you. With the heat we have here, it really is bringing the red out, in both. And as far as the hook goes...it seems like a strong characteristic of Penang Peach...so I would not be surprised to see it in a good amount of PP's offspring...especially the self pollinated offspring.
Take a look at theses pictures...I will let you all be the judge.
These plants have been growing side by side for over a month now. They get they same amount of sun, same water, soil, fertilizer, etc...all things are equal, well as much as possible with them being in separate pots. Pics might be a little off because I did not take them in the same exact postion.
First Picture:
Som Garasin used my thumb to open it...I used two flowers...one from SG and one from PP. Both had just started to open, roughly same stage of opening, so I used my thumb to open them a little further so we could see the colors. I was afraid to use flowers that were already open...too many things can influence there color after opening...plus I would not be able to tell how long each had been open for.



This message was edited Jul 24, 2008 6:51 PM

Penange Peach same stage as Som Garasin

Crappy picture...SG Left PP right.

SG left PP right

LOL, nice comparison, Davie. They look the same to me, but you just don't get the same observations from pictures that you get in person so I'll have to defer to your judgment!

PP on top SG on bottom

Wow - going to all that trouble.
I think it's pretty conclusive.

The SG on top PP bottom

I see what you mean that there is slightly more orange at the moment in the PP, but the petal shape is exactly the same down to the pointy tips. Someone with more of a science background than I would have to tell us about what the color red needs to come out. I know it comes out with heat, but I think it might have something to do with the energy of the plant.

Clare the only difference I can really see after today is a slight difference in the amount of red in the SG, I see a little more in person, but that could be attributed to a lot of things. The petals of the Sg are slightly bigger than the PP, but the PP has been flowering longer so that could be the cause. The only large difference is in the amount the tips of the leaves curl. The SG has a very distinct leaf tip....the tipe curls drasticall, where as the PP leaf is only curled half way. Again this could be attributed to many things.
I just wanted to get all of your opinions too.
thanks
SG leaf curl

Penang Peach Leaf curl

SG leaf curl...another leaf

The most extreme leaf curl of PP. Last picture.
More to come as temps change and flower colors change...
Davie

Let me chime in here---I have been growing "Som Garison" and Penang Peach for about 4 years--they are the same as i cannot tell the difference. I am selling "Som Garison" as Penang Peach, and, my Thai seller tells me it is simply the Thai name for Penang Peach.

Here is a picture of "Som Garison"--LOL This is my specimen plant by the pool and how it bloomed after a nice shot of Phosphorous and a nice dose of late July heat. This should, along with the other evidence presented here remove all doubt.

Brad

This message was edited Jul 24, 2008 8:36 PM

Here she is again--an earlier inflo in the late Spring rain--notice she's a little lighter?

With Penang Peach and Som Garrison you will often notice a ittle "notch" on one or more of the petals on some flowers.

Also, those beautiful, ovate leaves with that little hook--I can spot this plant in the middle of a whole field of plumies just by looking at the leaves. It is a compact grower and I can honestly say if you do not have one---you simply should! LOL

Hope my jibber-jabber helps.

Brad

Thanks for posting these pics, Davie. That is quite a leaf curl on the one you have as SG. It's definitely more so than PP, but as you say, there could be other explanations for it. I guess, until DNA testing is done, we might never know, but the general consensus, as Brad said, is that they are the same. I would really like to know what Kukiat thinks about this.

Beautiful pics, Brad. Thanks for chiming in with your observations.

Thanks Brad for the info, Well Brads been at this longer than I have and has seen many more plumeria...I will take his word for it...time to re label all my SG's...makes it easier.
Davie