So what did I do wrong?

I believe this is a newly planted crinum. There is no tag to be found around it. ( kids, cats etc...) Did I plant this too deep? The bloom stalk is only a few inches out of the ground and seems to becoming from the side of it.

No ideas?

Marie, maybe it got too hot and it stunted it? to me it happened with tulips, in Miami. After taking them out of the fridge and planting them in pots outside, the blooms were very short, and not perfect.
How deep did you plant it? Do you really think planting deep would do this to the flower?
Did you notice a beginning of the scape when you planted it in the ground? If it was present, and in the exterior of the bulb, maybe it got wounded?

probably because it was about to bloom and then not enough water because it got dug up--is that one you planted like in the last 30 days....

thats ellen, I'd recognize that neck anywhere--ultimely for bloom next year you want to keep it deep, I tend to go to shallow with it because I hate to dig big crinums, and ellen blooms more reliably every year if its deep

This message was edited Jul 9, 2008 11:49 PM

Ok so should I dig it up now or later and plant deeper? I think it was planted int he last couple of months. I though I was only supposed to plant up to the neck?

Marieortiz.

Crinums should be planted very shallow. The top of the bulbs should be visible at the ground surface. I cant tell from the photo how deep the plant is.

If the plant is planted at the correct depth, I would say it is in shock.

Any plant would be stressed by being dug up just before it is about to bloom, but crinums dont like to be moved at all. When they are moved they should be dormant -- no signs of life, no blooms, no fresh leaves.

if the plant is not too awfully deep, I would leave it alone until it recovers.
What a beautiful plant.

This message was edited Jul 10, 2008 9:11 AM

This is dmj1218's photo of Ellen bosanquet from Plant Files.

and that is the exact crinum she has there, I mean the exact bulb; I gave it to her as a gift gloria--unless you want ellen to offset prolifically and not bloom reliably--plant her deep; but leave her alone for now until winter.

most crinums don't like it shallow--But Marie, you can plant 'Peach Blow' shallow--she's a very slow offsetter.

This message was edited Jul 10, 2008 11:17 AM

I wouldn't dig it again for a while (until dormancy) or at all - that's what I understand from the posts .

dmj1218. I have enjoyed your photos of crinums so much!

How deep would you plant? Ive read that the top of the bulb should be exposed. Ive never replanted mine.

Im working on lycoris now.

please dmail me gloria

Ok I thought that was the one but I was not sure. So when she is done flowering I will plant her deeper since I am more about flowers than offsets. I thought maybe that was the issue!! I have to do some rearranging where she is anyways.

you can wait until it cools off in December--lol--fence tomorrow for sure, they are working next door as we speak =)

Yeah on the fence!!!!! i will be doing a lot of moving of plants in December. Funny how you buy these curte little plants and then forget they actually grow up!!

kinda like kids =)

LOl but at least I can close the door and forget about them!! The kids seem to find me no matter what!

Robin knows that if I have my sunglasses on I'm invisible--don't bother me unless its really important (like the house is on fire, literally)

I'm working on changing my name to something other than mom--not having as much luck there though =)

http://www.easytogrowbulbs.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=107

Here's a Guide to Planting Crinums from Easy to Grow Bulbs. com.

crinums are my new passion, so I'm glad I saw this thread. I started my first crinums last year and now can't count how many I have, they are magnificent in bloom. I had one of those short bloomers also, watering was pretty erratic, though
I'm no expert, but just to be arbitrary, I have to say from my little experience the instructions from easy to grow (not a reliable vendor, btw) aren't really comprehensive because how you plant and amend for crinums will have everything to do with which crinum you are planting, your location (rainfall, summer heat, winter moisture, etc), where you want to plant it, zone, and almost critically, the drainage of your soil. This is particularly true in the upper zones of the hardiness range for crinums. So if I wanted to plant a crinum that was hardy to zone 8 in my 7b garden, I would need to plant it a bit deeper, in sandier soil, and mulch it more deeply than one that is hardy here, like Ellen B. or c. americanum. But in general crinums do like to be planted deeply in very well drained, but moist,fertile soil and as they get established actually pull their roots deeper down into the ground...you find this out fast when you dig them, they're impressive!

hope that made sense...coffee was strong this morning!

http://www.bulbsociety.org/GALLERY_OF_THE_WORLDS_BULBS/GRAPHICS/Crinum/CrinumCultivarlist.shtml

there is a horticulturists, Andy Cabe who is a curator at one of the gardens in North Carolina.
Ill have to go find the location.

Andy Cabe (August 11, 2006)
Curator of Horticulture
Riverbanks Zoo and Garden
http://www.riverbanks.org/garden/
Columbia, SC

Andy Cabe posts a lot of the crinum pictures at bulb society.org.

This message was edited Jul 16, 2008 8:59 AM

woops. wrong state. anyhow, crinums in South Carolina should do well in North Carolina, right?

amen my friend Kara, you always make perfect sense--I know Marie's listening to us.
;)

Here's your 'Peach Blow" Marie; now she can go a bit shallower if you can't get the hole any deeper, but mulch her heavy. Hear ya finally got a bit of rain out that way!

by the way, Andy Cabe is a longtime friend of mine--I talk to Herb Kelly by phone weekly and is one of my best gardening friends, and Dave Lehmiller at least once a month, Marcelle Sheppard lives about a mile from my brother

Let's round out the morning with C zeylanicum--should be opened up tomorrow and looking good

Yes I am !! I am just getting started on my crinum obbsession!! I got her in the ground Debbie but I intend on digging her up and getting her in deeper. I just needed to get her in the ground asap and I was not having a good back day that day.

Oh my that is going to be beautiful !! Marcelle is so very nice. I talked to her once for about 30 minutes on the phone.

she's a doll Marie--I have a bunch of her hybrids from seeds about to bloom, she gives my brother brown lunch sacks full of seeds every year, I hope to get over there to see her now that the fence project is done

kinda like a box of chocolate's, you never know what your going to get
=)

I'm fixin' to post you some fence pics on the SW forum and give you what I'm going to do today with those Hib seeds--give me a minute, I'm slowly wakin' up

can't wait to see c. zeylanicum opened up.

Marcelle Sheppards website was closed down for quite a while.
Looks like she is back in operation.

I wonder if the Riverbanks Zoo and Garden where Andy Cabe is curator, has a significant display of crinims? His photos are outstanding.

This message was edited Jul 16, 2008 9:34 AM

If you visit her please give her a hug from me. She probably will not remember me (Although maybe she will since I am on the wait list for two very expensive crinums) but it was so nice that she would time to talk to me who is a novice!!

been drooling..great pics
It's funny, yes and no...NC and SC are really different according to region and I won't get into culture..lol. Climate's a little different, warmer in most of SC and soil is sandier there (more like our coastal region) compared to our hard red clay in the piedmont of NC. Some plants hardy to zone 8 (Columbia is in zone 8) or even higher can be "pushed" to come back here, but it doesn't always work or they don't grow well the second year. At lot of the crinum pics he has are of crinums that are truly hardy here, but wow, love than "Han Ire", doesn't look too hardy to me though. Marcelle's site has a list of crinums Tony Avent of Plant Delights has found to be hardy in Raleigh (NC) that is pretty extensive. I've been pleasantly surprised at what I've seen folks "push" with the proper drainage, which is so crucial in my area and positioning

I surely will--I need to get over there next week, bro starting HepC treatment--he might need me, even if he won't admit it--lol

I have someone staying with me right now to keep an eye on my seedlings

You would be surprised--she will remember you--and she will be absolutely thrilled that we are such good friends--she's another person that definitely doesn't believe in coincidences!
=)

Kara--Tony got alot of his original starts from Marcelle

I think good sound crinum culture is pretty universal across the world--just hardiness of some of the species is questionable, and that's where individual locations come into play
=)

Deb I will keep your brother in my prayers. I have a brother who had hep c too.
I would love to meet her in person. Something about her spirit that just made me smile for the rest of the day after talking with her!

Debbie. Best wishes for your brother's treatment. I know it can be a long term recovery.

thanks ya'll, your wishes mean the most--I hear the prognosis is pretty good on that treatment--they gave him all the stuff where he can do it at home, which I found amazing

Marie--I got this done for the seeds (link)

I gotta get off of here for a while--I got this long list of work to do today and tomorrow. If I get half done today I can go see Wanted tonite at the movies ( I just love James McAvoy) and if I get the other half done tomorrow I can go see my boy Heath in Dark Knight tomorrow night. So I'm real motivated--lol.

I'll get those fence pics on the SW forum this evening when it gets really hot
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/872980/

=)

Deb, best wishes for your brother

that's awesome to hear, Marcelle Sheppard sure is talked about and highly respected for her work...love the Rose City Schoolhousehybrids

Debbie, your brother and you will be in my thoughts and prayers as well!
Hugs,
Alexandra

I take it you arrived safely in Miami :o)

Hey, Marie!
Yes, I did! My boss was waiting for me like I was a piece of fresh out-of-the-oven loaf of bread! Luckily for me, it is that much I can do on my first day back!