Brugs and plumeria

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

I don't know where I heard this...but I heard that brugmansia's either get diseases or mites that could spread to the plumeria's and since I planted a brug very near to my plumeria, I'm just wondering if I heard correctly. Something is eating a hole in one leaf of one of the plumies and on another, something has been nibbling at almost all of 2 leaves. Just had to ask.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Louise, it seems to me that brugs do get mites more readily than plumerias, but plumerias can get them too. Mites can easily jump or spread from tree to tree, plant to plant. I just gave all my plumerias and brugs a dose of 'Forbid,' which is a miticide, because I saw the evidence of mites on both. Other miticides are Isotox and Avid. If these holes are visible, then it probably isn't from mites. It is probably from snails, slugs, or grasshoppers. I've seen quite a few small and large grasshoppers in my yard lately. This must be the season for them.

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Clare, yes it could be snails, I've seen quite a few. And yes, we have grasshoppers. I'll start putting eggshells in the pots with the plumeria. The brug also looks like something is chewing on its leaves too.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Brugs are susceptible to catepillar and cucumber beetle damage. My 'Snowbank' went bye-bye yesterday. I dug the whole thing up and tossed it. I was too tired of looking at swiss cheese leaves, and I don't spray the BT often enough to keep on top of the damage. I think it had a lot of mites on it also. I do love brugs, but they are very high maintenance for me. At one point, I had about 40 cultivars, and now I'm down to six.

Tucson, AZ

i can't find any takers for mine. bummer! i am tired of watering them. never had any bugs though.

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

I must be weird, but never saw the attraction to brugs. I remember when I first joined DG and asked what a brug was, someone said I'd be addicted to them soon enough. Nope, ain't happening. :-)

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

I may be digging this puppy up and I hate to say it...but tossing it. My brug has pink flowers but maybe I need to rethink having a brug, ya think?!??!?

Tucson, AZ

i am only digging mine up because of water usage. if i didn't mind keeping them watered then they would stay. i have a few nibbled leaves here and there but that not a problem. i think the wind and fall twigs and olives do the most damage to mine. LOL never had the mite or grub problems like most people seem to get.

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Grubs? I can pick those off and feed them to my bluejays!
I do like the flower and didn't realize that they have a light scent.
Kathleen, are you sure you don't want a brug?!?!?!?

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

Yep, I'm sure! lol

Tucson, AZ

weegy - some of them have a very strong fragrance.

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

There, see, Louise? You don't want anything to compete with your plumeria! Dig that thing out! LOL

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

LOL, Kathleen... yes this one does have a nice fragrance.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

I've cut a few of mine down to the ground brutally, and the things keep growing back! Some stumps are impossible to dig up. It's true that they do seem to need a lot of water. The fragrance at night is lovely though.

Tucson, AZ

in arizona the will die to the ground and come back larger than the previous summer. too bad my plumeria will not do that when left in the ground. LOL

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

LOL tucson! Well, maybe I'll be pulling this thing out after all before it gets too big. I'm torn!

Tucson, AZ

perhaps, you can at least keep one in a pot. that's what i am thinking about doing. my charles grimaldi (super fragrant!) will probably go in a large container and we'll see how it does. i can water a container better than just spilling water out on the ground.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Here's a picture of my former Charles Grimaldi. It does okay in a pot for a while, but it wants to get big and watch for the roots growing out the drainage holes and digging in!

Thumbnail by Clare_CA
Tucson, AZ

nice!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Thanks, it was nice until it got the tobacco mosaic virus and died!

Tucson, AZ

how did it get that?

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

A person who smokes took cuttings of all her brugs and very generously passed them out to people as cuttings for postage. I was one of the lucky people, and I think she sent me 12 different cultivars. All 12 came down with the virus so she must have used the same cutters on all the trimmings without any sort of sterilization. The signs and symptoms didn't show up right away on all of them, and I had no idea about viruses at the time, and I'm sure I then used my cutters on my other brugs and Charles Grimaldi, which always needed pruning, without realizing that I should be sterilizing between cuts.

That was a tough learning lesson, and some didn't show the signs for two years or more. That's why I am so vocal about not wanting a virused plant in my garden. It is sad and frustrating to have to dig up diseased malformed trees that you've cared for for years. Now, if I ever cut my brugs, I use sterile cutters for each cut that I make.

On top of that, I learned that my Passiflora 'Incense' had a virus, and my Abutilons looked so ugly because they had a virus, and I just got rid of everything with a virus and haven't looked back.

That's why it is said for people not to smoke around their plants. Here's a link which tells more about the virus: http://www.abads.net/Brug-Virus/brugvirus.htm

Tucson, AZ

bummer! never knew you shouldn't smoke around your plants.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Yeah, and I think it is especially bad to touch a plant when your hands have touched tobacco. Brugs and tobacco are in the same family as well.

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