Is this normal? It sure is a beauty!!
It's not quite $200 yet, but there's 17 hrs left in the auction - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350068481878&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=022
$200 Brug on eBay
I sure wouldn't hesitate to pay $200:00 if I lived in the US, it's absolutely stunning.
A brug breeder, here in Australia, charges $200:00 for a cutting of Culebra and Maya.
Sorry, I mean to say, a rooted cutting........
It's the usual practice for new introductions in an area. In a few years when more widely circulated the price will come down considerably.... If it goes into production by a grower it becomes more affordable. There's a lot involved in bringing over some of these imports and the person who does so needs to recoup their money. They have to undergo a 2 year quarantine here in the States, and several inspections. You have to pay for each time the inspector comes out also.
Newbie, It's so gorgeous. Having grown them in pots in zone 9, I know they fade fast if not given adequate moisture. I once got one from Logee's Greenhouse via UPS years ago. It was packed beautifully and put on considerable growth almost immediately. I didn't read whether there was a guarantee on this one, but the seller certainly has a credible record. Good luck if you do go for it and please let us know here.
Oh, I'm not bidding on it. :) I don't have the expertise with Brugs yet to spend that kind of money on a plant - I'd be afraid I'd kill it. Maybe after I have a couple of years under my belt with them. I have yet to even have my first bud! :((( I'm still struggling with all the variables of growing them well, not the least of which is the fickle weather I'm living in now.
mpabbott - thanks for that info. That's really interesting to know they have to be quarantined for years first!
But, yes, that one is truly gorgeous & since red is my base color for my gardens, that would be perfect.
I had gathered all the information on importing Brugs, but my husband gently nixed the idea..... So I wait for them along with most of the people that drool over some of the ones from Germany. Sigh .....
Mya ...that one has come from Germany perhaps, a stunning plant...it is one of ...if not the reddest Angel yet.It's genes will do a great deal of fantastic things for the next lot of new Brugs to come.I don't think 200.00 is expensive for this one at all because of the promise it carries for the future. Sadly these Angels are not permitted into Australia ...the best we can hope for is some crosses becoming available as seeds somwhere down the track so I hope seedsprout will buy and cross. Good luck to both the seller and the buyer.
I drooled over the first one to go on sale a few weeks ago. I'm surprised that the first one sold for less than the current bid on this one. I looked into importing some double yellows, but gave up after finding out what it would entail. I would be tempted to bid on this one if I hadn't blown my wad on replacement Brugs and wooden crochet hooks.
Chrissy,we may get lucky with the seeds we've purchased from seedsprout and one day come up with unique crosses of our own.
I emailed Brenda from seedsprout and asked if she had any Miss Emily MacKenzie crossess and she said that she has never been able to get any pods to take on MEM.
So a lot of work/heartache and love goes into these crosses.
I really don't think to pay $200:00 is outrageous, for a brug that grows and then be shared or swapped. Especially one as gorgeous as that one.Red is such a vibrant and alive colour...lucky all of you ....
Gee I find that very interesting ...I know some Angels are hard to cross and some are also hard to get the cuttings going ...that is why we need to know what the crosses are to figure out why and how to overcome it. I will do a little rearch on that to see what I can see. I think I have seen seeds crossed from her somewhere ...it might be a matter of joining her with a particular type that is required. If anyone out there has had success making seeds from MEM could you please let us know ...
chrissy
YES.. a lovely red brug indeed...it's often shown pictured with a cherry tomato next to it.. I'm glad to see this offering has no tomatoes with it.. I was growing out a few seeds that were a super spot cross.. they grew out to a few inches tall then wilted away.. a bunch of seeds that were a named cross with SS never sprouted at all...when I get 0% germination on some crosses l feel a bit better... beliveing it's not something I did....I wonder if the rest have made it through in the slow group nursery.. of which there are 6-8 being kept in their second pots ..but living outside.. These late started seeds didn't do as well as the mid winter started seeds.. for some reason.. perhaps because they were the newest crosses ..and less easily viable.. or perhaps it was the conditions in the sprouting area ..more soil knats or white flies ..as the season progressed.. higher temps.. lots of varriables...
OH I just checked just what was still going.. and dumped the 4"of water( big rain last evening) out of the long metal planter with out the drainage holes... that is where the 1 L. pots of the slow group sits.. and I'm happy to say there is one Super Spot X ??? left.. and it' the biggest of the bunch..at about 8"now..
Gordon
Most "RED" or near red brugs from Germany show deeper colors, than in the states when they get here.The soil in Germany is rich in minerals due to the ancient volcanic structure.Soil more than anything really seems to affect brugmansia coloration. Night temps and fertilizer also are big factors.I have some that border red one time of the year and another season they are much paler.Too many variables to spend that much till it proves itself here.
That is very interesting ...I feel we have the same problem here in Australia ...super growth ...big flowers/constant flushes ... but the colours remain much lighter than they should. Minerals ...hmm perhaps an experiment with that would be worth while ...next Spring/summer I will try that (adding extra minerals) and also try the soil acidity thing too.Our Garden guru on the radio suggests using a really good rose food on the Angels (I am an organic gardener so I am still thinking about that one) .From what I have seen it seems to be a sudden drop in temperature that triggers the deeper colours ie warm day cold night ...our temps are sub tropical usually with a glitch here and there.Anyone out there had any luck with deeper colours via a change in nutrition /soil PH etc ?
I have Frosty pink in 4 different soil conditions and it is exactly the same colour every time ...it may be that highly hybridized seeds are not as stable in nature as the less hybridized.
Chrissy, what acidity thing? What is it supposed to do for Brugs? If the soil is too acidic, you can have mineral uptake problems. Or do you mean having slightly acidic soil?
Temperatures definitely have an effect on some Brugs. My Creamsickle has colored up to its apricot shade only once. All its other flushes in the 3 years I have had her have been a creamy white, but that's fine with me. Her flushes are more dramatic in creamy white. Here's one from 2006. She barely survived last year's disaster.
No my soil is not acidic but PH may influence some things ...what I notice with some of the flowers in the garden are a general deepening of colour in cool conditions my Chinese lanterns for example are a mandarin colour in Summer and almost red in Winter as is most of my hibiscus.As you mentioned the PH can influence the uptake of certain goodies from the soil ...so can cold conditions .I even wonder if the actual Sun effect is different, UV rays may differ between Countries.I have taken the Frosty pink and grown some in acid conditions ...some in alkaline ...some in perfect conditions and some in more shade than the rest ...the colour remained stable . Can you remember the conditions that allowed colour in yours? was it only weather? ...different fertilizer etc ...I think we should all take notes ...I keep handwritten journals to remind myself (hard to remember everything otherwise).
wow
great just great
now ill be lusting after it!!!
a.
The bad part is the $200.00 brugs die just as fast as the $5.00 ones.
I paid $140.00 last year for one that was shown as very very dark pink, well it has bloomed at best a medium pink each time. All of us who grow brugs know that soil, weather, climate looking at it cross eyed can change the color of a brug. For me Painted Lady blooms very very red. I am content with that.
Thanks for that info ...theraglady ...I have some seed crosses from her so I may get lucky and grow one like it's parent (or grandparent)
Mya if you are still looking here ...I found some info re Miss Emily Mc Kenzie ...her parents were Pink Beauty x Equador Pink ...you might be able to purchase seeds of that cross to get similar traits.
Thanks Chrissy
I've got Equador so just need to find seeds for Pink Beauty...gets so darn complicated...
People in Humid Florida seem to get better coloration than I do in Dry Southern California. I tried a misting fan last summer and all it did was make the leaves funny. LOL - I guess I'll have to be content with what I've got.
I live in Livermore Calif. which is in the San Fran. Bay area but inland where we can get very hot during the summer. Most pinks bloom light for me, however I have noticed that when they bloom in the greenhouse with humidity they are much darker, so I think humidity has alot to do with the color.
Almost three years ago, I sent my Mom, who lives in Fremont, CA, a Rosamond which bloomed with a nice strong pink color for me. She finally tossed it this past fall because hers bloomed a pale pink with the color mostly around the edge.
I that ebay seller is Brad, one of our own DG subscribers - he posts over on the Plumeria forum with lots of incredible photos.
I get wonderful color here in NNY. My Equador pink is always a very very dark pink. I use huge quantities of worm compost and have wondered if that has anything to do with it.
I received some Super Spot pollen from a friend and have pollinated everything but the cat with it. It was rejected by 75% of the various flowers I used for the pod parent.
I now have seedlings of:
Tiara x Superspot
Peanut x Superspot (1 seed)
The Chief x Super Spot (gobbled it up)
I'm looking forward to these little guys flowering, especially The Chief cross.
We shall see...
75% Hmmmm... Are some species or hybrids more difficult to cross? Is there a biological basis for this? Interesting! I know the arborea group and aurea groups normally don't cross, but within the groups are some crosses more difficult to make? Why?
I'm rooting for The Cheif X Sper Spot cross. I love pinks, but would love to see something sensational in another color.
I got the pom poms out cheering you on Gordo. I just love all shades of pink, but redwould be wonderful.
I wonder what it would do crossed with Rothkirch or L'Amour.
Dee
Oh, I like the sounds of that.
Dee