June Planting Dates

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

June dates from the Farmer's Almanac (my Moon Calendar has different or additional dates)
Plant above ground: 5,6,14,15
Plant below ground: 24,25

Harvest above ground crops 9,10
Harvest below ground crops 19,20,28,29

Lumberton, TX(Zone 8b)

Rather than starting a new thread, the calendar I use goes as follows:

New moon is Tuesday the 3rd. Full moon is Wednesday the 18th.

Planting dates: 5, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 19, 20, 24, 25.

Harvest dates: 3, 21, 22, 23, 26, 27, 30.

Mine doesn't specify above-ground v. below-ground, but between this and darius's information we should be on target, right? Also, Mercury went retrograde May 26 and will be that way until June 19, for those of you who buy that bit of lore.

Happy gardening!

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Thanks brigidlily. Your list reads a LOT more like my Gardening by the Moon calendar. :)

Frankfort, KY(Zone 6a)

One thing for Sure....one of the sources is wrong...maybe both ? ? ^_^
I know they are pulled off the internet and you are only quoting what some one else stated.
I do hope it helps some one.

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Could be... I need a new ephmeris.

Lumberton, TX(Zone 8b)

I'm confused.

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

rentman and brigidlily... I think the difference is that some calendars or almanacs compute the Moon's position in its geocentric place; some compute its position by its astronomic (heliocentric) place. When the Moon's position is computed geocentrically, it's computed from the center of the Earth. For planting, this is entirely correct (and logical). We live on the Earth; we plant on the Earth. All our activities are "Earth-centered."

When a computation is made to find the Moon's location in the heavens as the astronomer does, it is computed from the center of the Sun, or heliocentrically.

Fortunately most calendars showing the Moon's signs are geocentric, as are most almanacs. But this is not always the case. The Old Farmer's Almanac is heliocentrically calculated.

To clarify... If you compared a geocentrically calculated almanac with one calculated heliocentrically, you'd find that on the first day of January 1985, a geocentric calendar would show the Moon in Taurus, and a heliocentrically calculated one would show the Moon in Aries. This difference is a vital when planting.

I really don't know how my Gardening by the Moon calendar is calculated. I DO know that all of them need an adjustment for our individual local time since no calendar does that for us. (Example: Aries will rise at a different hour/minute varying from GMT to your own zone.)

Does this help?

Frankfort, KY(Zone 6a)

darius, thanks for more info.
I have been using the Old Farmer's Almanac is some degree, not faithfully .
So if I use the heliocentrically system how should I adjust time for EST ?
Or maybe the time adjustment would not make much of a different.
Is there a big problem with a day here or there ^_^

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

rentman, I'm told the 'planting guide' you can purchase from the Old Farmer's Almanac (separate from their regular almanac) is actually geocentric. As to time, yes it matters. All moon calendars should state if they are based on Greenwich Mean Time... then just count the time zones to your area and adjust accordingly.

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