Is it H verticillata 'albomarginata' ?

North Central, ID(Zone 6a)

So I started a new thread for this. I sent blue_eyes a cutting of what I 'thought' was
H carnosa 'KQ'. I bought this plant a few months ago at a nursery. I did notice that
the leaves seemed to be a lot fleshier, or harder, than the other H carnosa 'Krimson Queen'
that I have, but didn't think much of it. Now that I looked up pics of H verticillata,
it looks a lot alike.

For reference, check Christina's site under H verticillata 'albomarginata'.
And here is a pic of my whole plant. BTW, there are 2 different plants in this pot. One
just seems to be reverse variegated than the other....

Edited to say that I am thoroughly embarassed to have thought I correctly id'd this plant.
I've learned my lesson now ! Thanks Kim....

Paula

This message was edited May 10, 2008 2:04 PM

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San Francisco, CA

Paula, I think it is what we were calling H. verticillata albomarginata. Now the name seems to be H. acuta albomarginata, but same plant.
It's really pretty- I got a nice cut of this from Ric in the swap.

Carnegie, PA

Yes Paula, it's H. verticillata. I have one also that was sent to me labeled as that. But I've been wondering lately if it's actually supposed to be called acuta? I've been seeing people referring to theirs both ways. Anyway, that's a beautiful plant! Here is a recent pic of mine....

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Carnegie, PA

Mark, we were typing at the same time! lol. Thank you for answering my question though!

Jen

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Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Paula....my big plant starting throwing out the reverse variegation too...but it wasn't very stable. That big plant is now growing up a tree off my lanai...i love that whole complex!!!

North Central, ID(Zone 6a)

Thanks all for the confirmation. I have a completely different plant than I thought !!

So, does that mean that this is really just ONE plant ?
It seems as though they are two separate in the pot... One side is variegated
in the middle and the other side is variegated only on the edges.
Is it possible that one side is reverse variegation - as in H kerrii reverse variegated ?

Paula

Here's a close-up.

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Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Paula...my original plant, as it grew bigger, began a vine where the variegation was reversed, as yours is. It's called a 'sport'. Many of the cultivars we have today were/are sports of another clone. You have really nice variegation!!!

Carnegie, PA

So Carol, what exactly does that mean? Could you cut off that vine and it would continue to have that particular variegation? I'm not sure I understand what a "sport" is...

Jen

North Central, ID(Zone 6a)

Wow ! No wonder there is so much complication and confusion with Hoyas.
I love it !!!

Paula

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Willow.... When a plant - let's say Hoya verticillata variegated form, begins to grow out leaves of a different 'configuration' (in color, texture, size, form...whatever) it is called a 'sport'. Some of these sports, when cut from the original plant and grown out on their own, maintain their integrity and continue to grow and display the 'new aberration'. That means that the 'sport' is stable. If, when cutting the sport the cutting languishes, doesn't want to grow, reverts back to the original form....it is NOT stable.

Variegation is a virus in the genetics of the plant. i think i am correct in saying that....that it is in the genetics. Viruses are NOT stable, as a rule.... This is one of the reasons that in some of the mutations of hoyas you get alot of variety.

Clear?

Carol

Carnegie, PA

Yes, clear. Thanks.

Jen

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Jen...glad you understoood. I am not always sure i explain things very well...i don't have a botanical background and don't always have the correct words for things.... thanks.

Saint Petersburg, FL(Zone 9b)

Very interesting info Carol. I never of heard of a sport when refering to plants. Thank u.

ric

Carnegie, PA

Carol, you explained it perfectly :)

Jen

(Zone 1)

Carol: Thank you for that explanation! You made it very easy for someone like me to understand! I had never heard of a plant "sporting" until someone on the African Violet forum was talking about it a year or so ago. I found this info when googling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_(botany)

And here: http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/tisscult/Chimeras/chimeralec/chimeras.html I know there are African Violet's called Chimera that have variegated flowers that look like pinwheels, very pretty ... I'm assuming from reading they are "sports" also. I get so lost with all the technical terms and explanations.

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