IDs Needed

I really need help with ID on a couple of Hoyas

Here is a second picture of the one above.

Here is a second one for ID

another picture

They look like Hoya carnosa...both of them.

Looks like them to me too. Carol

I agree. The second one is Hoya carnosa and the first one is Hoya carnosa rubra "Krimson Princess"

Christine

The first may be cornosa krimson. The second plant has the grey flecking like Hoya pubicalyx splash, but the leaves are a very dark green and thick. They are actually the darkest green leaves I have ever seen on a Hoya. The third picture is about the actual color of the leaves. If you click on the piture you will see that it has a lot of flecking. Could it be one of the Hoya pubicalyx?

H. carnosa and H. pubicalyx are very closely related. H. carnosa has lots of manifestations of leaves...and some of the H. pubicalyx cultivars can look surprisingly like H. carnosa.... As they say in the big leagues: the flowers should tell...LOL