Wallace Hansen's Native Plants of the Northwest

This is such a great resource for researching, even if you're not buying. :-)

http://www.nwplants.com/business/catalog/shrubs.html#spi_dou

Thanks that is a very good site for natives.

I haven't had any experiences with them, but it's a great place to look things up, at the least. And they have lots of pictures in their catalog, as well. I must find a way to get down there and take a look.

We could take the flying bus!

I have an excellent book,that is a lot easier to quickly look something up than a web page..The title is "Plants Of The Pacific Northwest Coast" by Pojar & Mackinnon.This book goes from the mosses to the big timber trees.I like having it near at hand for reference.

I have that one. I gave it to the Master Gardener's for a reference book.

Thanks, Ned. I do have that one and use it. It's great.

Kathy ~ Thanks for that website! I've already spent two hours perusing and have found a few more I "need."

Ned ~ I have the Pojar book and the Robson book (thanks, Susybell!), which are very good indeed. The website, though, is nice because it gives the new gardener (me) all the pertinent details at a glance. If you know what you're looking for, the book is great. If you're looking for something specific (i.e., fragrant, evergreen, etc.) the website is great ~ it's all right there for you.

Apparently Wallace Hansen is ailing and the nursery is for sale.

Go to this site and then click on "A Note from Diana". Any would be nursery owners out there? The deal sounds like it's too good to be true. And all they are trying to achieve is for their dad, who has Alzheimer's, to be able to live out his days in his beloved nursery.

It's a touching store.

Kathy

I found something, while digging into a box of books I have store away.
Manual of the trees of north America volumes one and two, By Charles Sprague Sargent copyright 1961.

Also found a book on How to Identify Plants by H. D. Harrington copyright 1957
Wonder if they are worth anything?

Kathy ~ I looked at the website today and couldn't find the "note from Diana." Maybe it sold already?

try here
http://www.wallyspringplantsale.com/

Pojar & Mackinnon is always with me in the field. But another favorite is "Trees Shrubs and Flower to know in Washington" by CP Lyons. It can be tough to find, but don't look at Boarders, its an old book. Mine has yellowed pages. The line drawings are to die for as all plants are compared to a rabbit, child and adult man wearing a fedora hat.

Guess I didn't add the link. But Strever has it right. The "Note from Diana" is a hyperlink to a piece from his daughter about keeping the nursery going for him in the last years of his life as he suffers from Alzheimer's.

AD, Ok, I'll bite. How do you compare a plant to a man in a fedora hat? Is it a height reference?


So sad about Wallace Hansen, so sweet what his family is trying to do for him...

Wish I had 35k laying around and nothing to spend it on! He must be a wonderful man as demonstrated by the efforts being put forth by his family.

Me too. It sounds like a great opportunity for someone who has that dream ans is positioned to do it.

It's sad that none of his kids wants to take the nursery, but so cool that they want him to live out his life there.

SB: Yes, it is a height reference only.

I bought this book 30 years ago: it was originally published in 1956, which says lots about the choice of hat.
Mine has a man, a squirrel & a rabbit for reference. No kids.
By the way, Borders is going out of business.

Borders is going out of business?! Where did you hear that? wow! I bet they will have a great sale...better start saving my pennies for their clearance sales :o)

I did hear on the news this week that they were having financial difficulty. Didn't hear that they were going out of business, though. Too bad.

Katye- I stand corrected. But I thought there was at least one crawling baby in a diaper. Humph. Maybe it was the BC book, or the first edition. I have the 5th edition, 1967. Bought around 1986 or so.

The reason I even mentioned it, AD, is that while I really like the book, I found it quite illogical to use these as various size references, since they are not a stated size.

There is one picture of a shrub with a rabbit next to it. After looking at so many of the drawings with tiny squirrels/rabbits, this one looks like a tiny shrub with a rabbit on steroids...and we all know that men only come in one size...with a fedora, no less!

Anyway, it is a very useful reference guide, and if it's available - definately worth buying. Line drawings, and great information for a quick read: absolutely user-friendly.

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I want to see the drawing comparing the guy in the fedora to a Doug fir or a 900 yr old Sequoia....

a small dot, but a dot with a fedora!

Nice image: dot with fedora on top next to line drawing of a huge tree . . .

Katye: Excuse me? Men come in one size?

Exactly what size is that?

[Nomex suit on]

AD - slow down & reread the post. (# 4727957)
I reiterate: using a man, a squirrel & a rabbit for size reference is illogical.
As far as I know, none of these come in a standard size.
I also made reference to viewing many of the drawings which show the animals as being quite small in comparison to the plants they are posed with.Then there is one of what appears to be a giant rabbit: the whole point was the size reference.
The addition of the hat is comical to me - as if that would give the viewer more clarity in regards to size, or, to affirm that the person was indeed a man....
No slights by me against men. Take the flame-retardant suit off & breathe freely.
All is well.

Suit or not, I breathe freely.

I read your post again, men come in a multiple of sizes: small 5'2 medium 5' 9.2" and large 8' 11" for the largest guy on record. That seems like a bit of a range. BTW, I was expecting some 80's feminist wisecrack.

I understand that you are talking scale and concerned about the change of perspective on how tall the objects are. Just put on Fuzzy Glasses, and don't sweat it.

This is far more explaining than it necessitates, but try this one:

"...After looking at so many of the drawings with tiny squirrels/rabbits, this one looks like a tiny shrub with a rabbit on steroids...and we all know that men only come in one size.."

Grammatically speaking - it is a contrast, and refers back to this sentence:

"...I found it quite illogical to use these as various size references, since they are not a stated size."

or this one: ...and we all know that men only come in one size.. (wink, wink)
there - does that help?

It seems your expectations of Feminist wisecracks clouded the content.
No need to educate me on the size range of humans: I had prior knowledge of that.
FYI, Fuzzy glasses have no purpose: I prefer clarity to obfuscation.

No, fuzzy glasses have a purpose. They allow those that require truly factual information to understand that nature plays a joke on factual geeks, as facts about nature are fuzzy.

Just hop over the C&S forum and see what a bug bear IDing a cactus is. I have a Mammilaria down to just merely 3 species and 2 subspecies of one of the species for a total of 4 choices.

Heck, how many times have you measured the plants you have grown and gotten them to meet the stated heights? Some of mine are bigger, some are smaller, some grow like weeds, others remain docile. Its up to the negotiation between the plants and the ground, or in the case of the book in question, the artist and the page. But viewed with fuzzy glasses, the artists conception is fine. Maybe rabbits needed to be on steriods for their entertainment the day that one was drawn and it got by the editor. Maybe rabbits grew bigger in the 40s and 50s? All is fair.

With fuzzy glasses on, its no biggie. With the need for perfection in the drawings, everything is a biggie. I love that book for the bunnies, and the man in the fedora no less, only more for this discussion.

Rob
Master of fuzzy logic:
its close to midnight, I think I will retire.

I do not measure my plants - they can grow according to their DNA "program".

Nor do I have a "need for perfection in the drawings" - that was the choice of the author to use the aforementioned objects as a size reference. Again, it was an observation.

And since you have referred to yourself as the master of fuzzy logic, is that how you prefer your music? The musician "kinda-sorta" plays the notes?
Or your bank account - surgery - architectural drawings?
Sometimes precision is the best way....

Whoa! That went off the deep end. ;o>

Okay...time for a group hug. C'mon ~ (((((((((((((((((**)))))))))))))))))

So . . . . a rabbit in a fedora went into a bar . . . .

Attempted to correct a misinterpretation of my previously mentioned post, and offer an alternative thought process to the perspective that was put forth.
No harm - no foul. All is well.
Time to move on...




Kathy - wishing I could draw that one!

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I really need to check to make sure I really know what a fedora looks like - I think I do. And then I'll work on the end to the joke . . . really haven't given it much thought yet.

So a bear walks into a bar in Bozeman and says to the bartender, "Give me a beer." The bartender says "We don't serve beers to bears in bars in Bozeman." The bear says "Give me a beer or I'll push down this stool!" The bartender says again, "We don't serve beers to bears in bars in Bozeman." The bear says "Give me a beer or I'll eat this woman sitting next to me." The bartender says yet again, "We don't serve beers to bears in bars in Bozeman." And the bear eats the woman sitting next to him. He says to the bartender, "Now, will you give me that beer?" The bartender says "Nope." The bear asks, "Why?" Bartender says, "We don't serve drug addicts, either." The bear says, "I'm not a drug addict." The bartender says, "Well, that WAS a barbiturate!"

Get it? Huh? Please don't make me explain this one....

That was pretty bad.Took me a couple minutes to catch it.