Hyacyinth?

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Is this a hyacinth? It is not like my others that are opening up.

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Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Here is another picture of a different one. Just kinda seems like it is missing some flowers.

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Monument, CO(Zone 5a)

I believe that hyacinth does that as it gets older. How long has it been planted in that location?

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Last fall.

Coaling, AL(Zone 7b)

I have some that look like that, too. They have also only been in the ground for one year. I cannot remember if I have a different variety that I picked up somewhere or if it is just a result of all the bizarre weather we have had since I put them in the ground...summer drought, strange temperature swings, and lots of rain recently. Mine are also blue in color.

(Judith) Denver, CO(Zone 5b)

Your "incomplete" hyacinth looks like a scilla to me. Take a look at http://www.hort.wisc.edu/mastergardener/Features/bulbs/scilla%20siberica/scilla%20sibirica.htm Don't you think so?

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west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Link doesn't work but it could well be a scilla--in which case, good luck! That species is all over the map as to classification and placement these days. Takes me forever to research the ones I am growing.
=)

Greenwood, IN(Zone 5b)

Looks very much like a hyacinth to me.....as do the leaves......and yes the stalks do get "looser" with fewer florettes as the plant ages. Totally normal. I have some in a container very much like that that have been in there about 6 years now. Nice find, Marie!!

Shenandoah Valley, VA

It has a mighty thick stem for scilla, or at least the kind I've grown. Maybe another variety or as was posted above, it is a hyacinth that just isn't blooming pretty this year.

http://www.hort.wisc.edu/mastergardener/Features/bulbs/scilla%20siberica/scilla%20sibirica.htm

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Some of the Scilla's do have leaves that look very close to a hyacinth, but yours could also be a hyacinth. Scilla peruviana has foliage that looks close to a hyacinth--but the blooms don't look like a hyacinth. I know I'm researching a Scilla with leaves very close, but it hasn't bloomed yet. If we could get a "head on", clear shot right into the tube of that flower, that would help. Height of the scape and leaf length might also be useful to solve the riddle.

Scroll down this blog until you get to the caption "More PIctures" and see if these heirloom Hyacinths match yours.
http://www.southernbulbs.com/blog/2006/2007_01_01_southernbulbs_archive.html

Debbie

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Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

I will take more pictures tommorrow after I get back into town. since this is the first time I have seen it it must be something I planted last fall. I am wondering where I got it.

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

not from me

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Here is Hyacinthoides non-scripta (English bluebells); I don't think so.
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/Hyacinthoides/Hyacinthoides_non-scripta.jpg

I think its probably and heirloom type Hyacinth, they have a more open form.

Adrian, MO(Zone 6a)

well some better pictures and info is in the daves garden descriptions under english bluebell. says they get 6-12 inches high and some of the foilage is shown.

Nantucket, MA(Zone 7a)

I would say it could be Roman Hyacinth, French Hyacinth or Hyacinthus orientalis var. albulus. An old fashioned favorite of mine. I will post a picture when I get on my other computer. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/764/ Patti

Here is my Hyaccinth of Peru, or Giant Squill, or Caribbean or Cuban Lily. Take you pick. Counted 13 blooms so far. Could this be what you have?

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west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Definitely not Scilla peruviana
=)

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Nantucket, MA(Zone 7a)

Here is my Roman Hyacinth. Last May 2. Patti

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west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Patti--that's it, they can look that way down here too.

Nantucket, MA(Zone 7a)

I love them and they are hard to find. They are suppose to look this way. Not like the overly hybridized newer ones.

http://www.oldhousegardens.com/bulb.asp?Cat=HY&page=3&#romanHya

I ordered more for this springs show. I hope they multiply for me. I had seen them years ago and could never find them until I saw them on Buggycrazy's site. Patti

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Yes they do, I agree Patti. If you read that blog link I put up in that previous post--they are about to start offering several varieties this year or next year, too. They show a lot of the whites, pinks, and blues in the old form. I like them a lot better than the newer ones also--and the Dutch wonder why the overly-hybridized ones have fallen out of favor. They also are a lot more dependable in the South; the older hybrids often do OK too--but not the ones within the last 30 years or so.

Greenwood, IN(Zone 5b)

Don't think Marie's hyacinth is a Roman. I had some pink Romans and also looking on the OHG website, Romans have more slender stems with slimmer, longer florets. Looks more like a standard H. Orientalis that has been there maybe a few years and has begun to return to its more original form.

See link for a true Roman hyacinth:

http://www.oldhousegardens.com/bigFlwr.asp?Cat=romanHya

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Considering that OGH gets some of his bulbs from Brad over at Southern Bulb Company--I tend to go with Brad's commentary; he is a grower, not the broker.
=)

But I bet it smells great--whichever it proves to be.

Greenwood, IN(Zone 5b)

Well to be fair, Scott at OHG is extremely knowledgeable and passionate about bulbs of all kinds and I think it would be a little unfair to refer to him as merely a "broker". In addition, he and his knowledge are highly regarded in bulb circles. Don't remember seeing any hyacinths of any kind on the Southern Bulb Co. site, so not sure what his level of expertise is on those, though I am sure he knows more than I do.

Adrian, MO(Zone 6a)



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Nantucket, MA(Zone 7a)

Mine came from Buggycrazy. I found this site which shows some interesting variations. I love OGH too and trust them both as vendors. patti

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Hyacinthus

west Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Brad's company is only 5 years old--and he has already managed to saturate the upscale nurseries in Texas with the bulbs he grows. Not bad for a kid out of A&M...guess it would depend on your "circles". OHG has a great website--lots of information; I love visiting it from time to time.
=)

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Well what ever it is I can tell you it was only planted in the fall and I love it!!
Harold I need that flower!!

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