I found this in my greenhouse today. I guess I should not be suprised since I recieved cuttings from so many different people.
Is this SB?
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It does look like SB. I would chunk it and go from there. There is life after SB. Before you do anything, wait until you get more feedback.
I would definitely move it far away from other plants.
I will definately move it, but It has been out there all winter will all of my other plants. Could it possible be cold damage? One of the really cold nights our greenhouse was not warm as it should have been, and I had some damage to several plants.
This message was edited Mar 4, 2008 10:27 PM
I've never had any experience with SB, but I've read that a black ring forms around a cut. This past fall, I had to cut a branch from my Mountain Magic in November to compensate for yanking the pot off the ground and breaking a ton of roots. The cutting rooted in water so I potted it in a deep 3-1/2" X 3-1/2" pot. It sat for a while then the area around the new buds and old leaf scars began to brown out and dry up. This effect continued until all the patches met and only islands of green remained. The rest died this past week. Yardqueen's cutting looks somewhat like what happened to my MM cutting. The mother MM plant is healthy and not showing any signs of those brown patches. Is that SB?
I don't think so. It sounds more like it may have rotted. But I am not real experienced. But then I don't know what mine has so what am I doing trying to answer you!!! LOL But based on your description, that is what I think happened to yours. Especially since you did not mention any black rings or sunken spot. also your mother plant shows no signs.
The more I look at it close up the less I think it is SB. The lesions do not appear sunken, and the borders aare not really black, they seem to be dark green or brown. But I really want some more opinions. It may be cold damage or damage when the lower leaves or small branches were stripped off. The leaves at the top if this plant looked good to me, but I failed to take any pictures.
My MM cutting was sitting in a tray along with 35 other rooted cuttings. Almost of the cuttings have rooted and are slowly growing. All the MM cuttings died. Most were log cuttings. I wasn't what would happen with them as I've never rooted cuttings that way. The one I described above was the only one that died in that way. The rest just turned brown and became hollow. I did let them get very dry once or twice. I also figured that maybe MM is difficult to root in winter.
OK, this may be a 'duh' question but for the life of me I can't figure out what "SB" is.
Tammie
Lhasalover,
I'm gald that you asked that question before I did! Snowbunny? Snowbank?
Mickey
SB is Stengelbrand or Stanglebrand ( I have seen it spelled several ways) This is a link to some more pics of it. There is no cure for it
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/419685/
Tammie, Stengelbrand is a fungal disease that has no cure and seems to affect yellow and golden flowered Brugs more than it does pink flowering Brugs. Since there is no cure and it spreads, it is best to dispose of the entire plant, pot and all. Yardqueen's link to that thread shows why there is so much concern. It is also good practice, when pruning to disinfect your tools after working with each plant so avoid spreading any problems.
Most refer to SB as stem blight. It is best to ditch the plant and get another one to replace it. One plant is't worth it.
This message was edited Mar 6, 2008 6:45 AM
Is it Dr Suess? I remember you had those weird spots on your cuttings last Fall.. That looks like the crud DrSuess gets.
I do not think it is SB, there are none of the black rings or depressions seen with SB. I don't know what it is, but as Ken said, one plant is not worth taking a chance and losing more. Isolate and watch it. I have seen SB up close when a friend had it. it looks like black greasy rings around the nods. Iam sure there are pictures in the files you can use to compare.
ZZ,
It is not Dr. Seuss. This is from a newer cutting that I had gotten in late September. This cutting was never near my Dr. Seuss cuttings, and it was already rooted when I got it. I don't even think it is a yellow one. It has a tag but I forgot what it said. I will look when I get home from work.
theraglady,
I am also thinking it is not SB, but not CERTAIN. I have been comparing the pics of it to others and the more I compare, the more I see differences. But I just don't know for sure.
I kept the cuttings from Orange Sunshine that Ken was sure had stem blight. They did look 'funny' when he cut them, but I kept them isolated from the rest of the Brugs for 3 months. They grew out of whatever it was in about 2 months.
Monika Gottschalk wrote an article about stem blight a few months ago, when I find it I will post a link.
Thanks Maggi, I would love to read it.
Well I checked the tag before supper and it is 'Delta Dawn' So what do you think?
I toss anything that even has a hint of something yucky..
It may not be SB but I had some kind of crud on any of my yellow/orange Suaves year before last and I tossed everything. Not worth the gamble to me.
That's why I don't want any more yellow suaves no matter how nice they are!
So is Delta Dawn a yellow/ orange Suave? I couldn't even remember what she looks like and I can't find a pic on plant files... I have not had this one long enough to bloom yet..
This message was edited Mar 5, 2008 9:34 PM
I'm not too crazy about that long skinny neck between the corolla and the calx. I may have one or two that might have a little Suave in their ancestry because you can see a little bit of that constricture between the corolla and the calx.