What I got back from PDN about Abutilon

Bluffton, SC(Zone 9a)

Abutilons love the heat and humidity. They will perform their best in full sun to part sun. To much shade, especially in the afternoon will cause them to look leggy. They do not like to go terribly dry. You will notice them wilting or the leaves may even turn yellow if it's too dry. After plenty of water during root establishment, they will grow well with watering once or twice per week.

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North Augusta, SC(Zone 8a)

Core,
I've grown them here for about 3 years now and have found that they do not care much for afternoon sun. Mine get only morning sun, do not get leggy and even with our terrible drought this past summer, did not scream for water. They actually did really well.
Alice

Bluffton, SC(Zone 9a)

Hmmmm. I want to try some abutilon but no one has anything good to say about them here. Think you may be an enabler. LOL. I have a few spots that get filtered sun all day and I'm thinking abutilon of some sort would be a good idea. I've pretty much run out of full sun. Ardesia who lives right up the road from me hasn't had luck with these plants which makes me wonder if they'll grow here.

Think I'll jut have to give one a try. What varities are you growing Alice?

North Augusta, SC(Zone 8a)

I have this one, trailing Imp
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/68784/
Rosalie
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/62100/
And a couple of unknowns that I grew from seeds.
Maybe you could find someone who has some seeds to share, mine bloomed first year from seeds...that way if they don't do well for you, you're not out much.
Alice

Johns Island, SC

Congrats for getting a reply from PDN, Core! You must be somebody!!! I couldn't find anything, anywhere, on pruning Asaragus virgata, so I e-mailed them for help. Since I bought the thing from them, I figured they might know. Got Nada! Zilch! If anybody out there has experience with this plant, please help! Do I prune it back to nubbins, or do I just prune off the obviously dead stuff? Gorgeous plant, just dont want to screw up future growth by whacking it back importunely...

Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

LOL, I thought the same about PDN; they have never responded to any of my inquiries. Core, you are on a roll.

Bluffton, SC(Zone 9a)

I have strange luck at being able to find things out. Don't know why but it seems to happen to me a lot.

Two days ago I sent these guys an e-mail about pawpaws. http://www.petersonpawpaws.com/
Like clock work back came an answer.

Quoting:
Corey,

A little high shade might not be bad for pawpaws in your climate, particularly if it is afternoon shade. In our climate in MD and WV the pawpaws definitely fruit better in full sun, but drought and high heat is a hard combo on them here (when it happens). But you are not too hot for pawpaws, not in the sense of their native range, since they grow naturally as far south as Gainesville and New Orleans. But in those areas they ARE understory. The only other issue with pines is the soil acidity. How acid is your soil. Pawpaws like pH 5.5-7. Are you in that range?

Neal

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I live in Bluffton SC and I'm interested in growing pawpaws. I already grow fruit trees and I like to grow out of the ordinary plants. From my understanding pawpaws are an understory tree so they can take some shade which is prefect for a spot I have with tall pines. First question is am I simply to hot for pawpaw? I'm on the coast about 10 miles from Savannah GA with temps in the 90's all summer long, nights in the 70's, high humidity.
Next question is if I'm not to hot will pawpaw grow mixed in with large pine trees? The pines aren't dense but it certainly a part sun area.

Any help? LOL.

Thank You
Corey Poliquin

Bedford, VA(Zone 7a)

Asparagus Virgata, AKA Broom fern, Tree Fern, Tiki.

I couldn't find out much detailed info about growing it outdoors but it spreads underground by roots so if it is getting ungainly or you want to encourage more growth, I would cut it back in early spring to about 1/3. Here's a couple links I found:
http://books.google.com/books?id=qjEBt3MPGZAC&pg=PA247&lpg=PA247&dq=broom+fern&source=web&ots=aGT2OCCvp_&sig=_C6tSE4jk15nAi3EKYynguyiuQU

http://zipcodezoo.com/Plants/A/Asparagus_virgatus.asp



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Bedford, VA(Zone 7a)

I grew Asparagus densiflorus "Sprengeri" plants from seeds I got in Puerto Rico where it grows wild; I would think it's related to your plant as it's also a South African native.

In the spring I used to cut out the old brown fronds right down to the soil, which was not an easy thing because it had vicious thorns.

I even totally chopped it down one year and just piled some fresh soil on top and it grew back just fine but it did take a while to get as bushy as it was before..

Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

Consider yourself lucky it took a while to come back. That stuff is terribly invasive down here although you see it sold everywhere. It is almost impossible to get rid of it as it self seeds all over.

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

Excuse me for butting in but on the flowering Abutilon, this Texas thread has a DGr that has success in Houston so there must be southern varieties. I have always lusted after them and hope to add one also. Thanks for the suggestions on the varieties. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/809932/ pod

Summerville, SC(Zone 8a)

I'm still waiting patiently for the seeds I planted to germinate. The TM Database says 20 - 30 days.

X

Deep East Texas, TX(Zone 8a)

My reference book "Seeds" also says germination in 3-4 weeks.

The part my patience could not endure is when started from seed,

Quoting:
Flowers in two years.
!!

Seabrook, SC(Zone 8b)

I'm an abutilon killer, so no help from me. :( I have hopes of keeping one alive one day.

I was wandering through Savannah this past fall and took this picture of an abutlilon mixed up with another vine just cascading over a wall. It was lovely- I adore pink and orange together. This abutilon was rampant- like sweet potato vine. So there must be some trick in this area. Maybe it likes it feet in the shade like clematis.

Jenny

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Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

You know, the hibiscus ablemoschus looks so much like the abutalons that have the little lantern shaped flowers. They only come in pink and red but they get huge and I think they are a great substitute for the real thing.

Opps, I meant Hibiscus Malvaviscus.

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Seabrook, SC(Zone 8b)

I agree! I can grow the the the turks cap, they like me! On the same trip to Savannah there was this lovely malvaviscus growing by the sidewalk. Ardesia, see if you recognize anyone in this picture...

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Bluffton, SC(Zone 9a)

I have to pay better attention when I'm down in SAV.

Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

Wow, that is a huge Turks Cap! Maybe I had better move mine before it gets that big.

LOL, yes I did recognize a few....
She is taking the current class down there this coming Saturday. I would tag along if I wasn't frantically transplanting. We are about to start the long awaited remodeling and all greenery in the way has to go somewhere else. Not to mention I have to clean out that attic so the workers can get in there. Agggghhhhhh

Bluffton, SC(Zone 9a)

Going to put that Turks cap on my seed shopping list 2008. I'll have to figure out where that one in the picture is down in SAV. Little seed napping would be the easiest.

Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

Ned carries them if you get impatient. :-)))

Columbia, SC

I feel like I'm butting in, but who is Ned?

Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

Ned Rahn of Plant Folks Nursery in Beaufort. He raises and sells hardy citrus and assorted other semi tropicals.

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