Hi, I've just gotten some great logs and would like to try the log method of rooting to get several plants. Anyone have any ideas what is the best way on going about this?
Thanks,
Mickey
Arizona
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Brug Logs
I tried it for the first time last month with what was left of a Mountain Magic cutting I had. I cut the logs into ~3" logs and buried them in individual pots so that the top side was just barely visible. My success rate was 50% so maybe you need to wait for someone who does it more often and has a better success rate.
I just press them into the soil making sure you have several nodes up and down. It is the nodes where new plants will start.
I like mine a little longer then three inches and since you will only get a plant where you have a node do not destroy nodes. Roots also form where nodes are and and along the cut ends. I wouldn't bother to try to log root cuttings if they only have one or two nodes. There have I said nodes enough times?
Every Brug is different. I have rooted Orange Sunshines that were 1' long with only two nodes. Some Brugs are best cut into longer pieces and rooted vertically, it just depends on the Brug.
kenboy
Sorry to get off topic (kind of) here, but I got 2 Ti plant cuttings that I tried to grow that way..... get this..... for well over ONE YEAR! I kid you not! Well, I gave up and now have them growing straight up.... but, there's still nothing going on. I think, in a couple more years, I just may toss them out! LOL!
I did monster white cuttings someone was kind enough to give me. I took one of the trays that is clear plastic that you put under pots to catch water and filled it with soiless potting soil. Put the brug in on its side with about 1/2 showing. I had great success with all of them. The reason I used the clear plastic tray was so I could see the roots form from the bottom. If I were to do it again I might try using moss in place of soil.
I am not a pro at this and have only rooted a couple. Good luck. Somewhere I have pictures of this method I will see if I can find them.
Let me tell you what I have found. Common white brug cuttings will root any where any time and grow like weeds. The harder the brug is to find and they more you wanted and the longer you have lusted after, the harder it will be to root. There was one I wanted for two years. I finally managed to get a tiny little twisted cutting. I have given nothing but the best of care. After ten months it has roots, has had leaves, maybe has grown an inch. If you all knew how I have tended to the cutting. I have d(doesn't right now, treated it for aphids)decided to give up, have tossed it into my LED grow tents and what ever happens, happens. I have many many wonderful brugs, I have finally realized, I don't need them all.
(But I sure did want that one)
do you do the log method to get extra plants from the one stick?
I have done that, and it worked fine. It would depend on the cutting. I did one once and a lot od leaves sprouted from the top and only one set of roots on the bottom. I usually just stick cuttings into moist soil and wait for leaves to apper. When I do water I add H2O2. I have so many plants now that I don't star too many cuttings, and never start any from October till
april, I have horrible luck with late fall and winter cuttings. I have been tempted to try some from the plants I have under LED lights, just havn't done it.
what is h202? how many cuttings do you have? i just strarted in brugs (really in all gardening) and started the sticks a few months ago--they are doing very well now--well 3 out of 4--
H202 is water with peroxide... I use about a tablespoon or two per gallon... well to be honest, I don't measure any more.. I just pour some in... LOL
The peroxide brings Oxygen to the roots..
Brenda, I just had to take cuttings... one of my brugs outside is getting shriveled skin on one side and it's traveling to the trunk.. So in a last ditch effort, I took cuttings from the other side... Rain Rain go away! or just give us a break anyway!
I have well over 140 brugs from seedlings to 8 foot trees. I will be starting more seeds in a few days. I gave away a bunch of plants last fall, just couldn't bring any more in. I have way to many and don't know enough to stop. the only duplicates I have are the 60+ seedlings. Some of these are my daughter and grandchilds, they don't have room to winter them.
H2O2 is hydrogen peroxide. It adds oxygen to the water and is suppose to help with rooting. It also will help with decay and fungus. I splash most of my cuttings with it. I use a lot of it. I am not sure how good it works, but I have had such great luck I don't dare stop.
I know the feeling Brenda! Every morning when I see how many I have.. I'm thinking oh NO! What have I done! AGAIN!! I can't trust me anymore.. I was so sure I'd only have a manageable number this year.. I haven't counted.. I'm too scared to! I don't have as many as you do.. but for the space I have.. you'd never dream I could have over a hundred.. LOL
I read on one site that a lady was setting her cuttings in 3% H2O2. I do buy mine at the beauty supply shop but can't remember the strength, it is very strong. It is wonderful for getting stains out of white clothing or linens too. I have removed old stains from 100 year old baby dresses with it. Guess that is why it does such a good job bleaching hair.
When I use it directly on plants I use the 3% you find in stores.
I have also heard you can pour some around the base of water logged plants to get oxygen to the roots.
H2O2 does help.. never thought about the beauty supply.. will try there. I use a lot also and am tired of buying the tiny walmart bottles. Want to find a larger bottle. I have several cuttings growing now. did not try the log method.. wish I had on a couple.. lost them. Sometimes you just look at a cutting and know it is not going to root for you. Anyone know where I might find a couple of yellow cuttings? Mom wants a yellow and I don't have any. I would love to have one too. She grew her first brug last year.. one I rooted and is in love with them. Who can blame her! LOL I am too and last year was my first too.
Tammie
I do have two seed pods on my Texas Pink .. don't know when those will be ready but am willing to trade when they are. I am not sure if they were self polinated or not.. a single white bloom was near when the pinks were open.
when I buy from the beauty supply I dilute with distilled water. I will look up the chart I worked for two days on to get the dilutions I want. I like to use 10%. Have gone higher with no problem. aphids foam up and die quickly when hit with it. It does however dry the leaves out.
i brought my 3 brug starts outside for the nice sunny day we are having--they are my first and the 4th didn't make it--it was the one i wanted most too--halo peach--i think it is the one that smells like peach--i only had a little stick and it just didn't do anything--the others had a big stick and did great--on another post i read some time back that you might need to trim them when they sprout? make a y or something--i will need to go take a look
I have never heard of trimming when when they sprout. A y is how the plants grow. When they reach a certain stage of their growth they naturally will form a Y, then they start to bloom. As they grow the branches for many more Y's means more blossoms.
Like I posted above, it is ALWYS the one you want most that dies. Never fails.
Here is an example of a case where all of the vertical cuttings did not make it and it looks like all of the logs will. There was 19 vertical and 17 logs. These are Native Habitat Double Peach cuttings. All of the verticals were above the Y and all of the logs were below the Y.
Now here is an example where all 18 vertical cuttings did make it and 11 of the 18 already have buds. I noticed them a week or so ago and have been watching them, expecting them to fall off, they have not. This is KBS. I know, you could root KBS in cement.
Check out the buds on these little guys.
guess i misunderstood about trimming them--glad i didn't although i wouldn't till i reread the thread--what is the KBS--i know a type that grows easily from your desription but what is the name
Kurark Bad Salzchlirf I think.
Ken, shouldn't you take those buds off to send the energy to making roots instead? That is so cute though!
KBS = Kurpark Bad Salzschlirf
ZZ I have several flats of KBS and wanted to see if these guys would really bloom. I started them out in six-packs and moved them to 4" about a week ago and they are already root bound. When we step up to gallon size pots we are going to need a truck load of soil. Lucky for us we can get one yard of soil for about $24 at Vital Earth.
kenboy
what a strange name for a brug--now i see why it goes by KBS--
It isn't strange in Germany.
no? i am german (half) ----bad is a middle name? sorry if i was being rude to any fellow germans :) i am so horrible at mispronouncing names that i would surely make a mess of that one!
That will be tooooo cool to have blooms on such a shorty... Do post pics for us... I for one am so sick of looking at dirt and sticks.. and now the dang groundhog made it worse! LOL
I am rooting some Iochroma as an experiement and they are loading up with buds... I don't care about roots at this point.. I have plenty outside.. and I'm thrilled to get blooms I don't even care how! LOL
so you are in a colder part of california zz? you know the rest of the country thinks california has the ideal temps always! such a long state you must cover lots of zones like texas does
Just to chime in, yes, California has lots of zones! Most people, I think, do visualize California as that "Sunny California" Los Angeles type of state. But we do have many different zones. I'm in a northern coastal zone ~ my temp range all year long usually doesn't drop much below 40F and not much above 65F. I have to find a few microclimates in my yard in order to get good brug blooms. But it's worth it!
Sanna
hmm--i am wondering how that would be--never too cold--i like that but never above 65 is a bit cool------interesting!
ZZ is in 9b which is a zone and a half higher than you Linda. I think she gets cool nights and a few frost from time to time. Just enough to keep the Brugs that are planted out from blooming all Winter.
I like using Sunsets zone designations. That puts ZZ in Zone 14, an inland zone that still gets some ocean influences. She lives in the Central Valley. So I don't know how much of an ocean influence she gets. Usually, some parts of California are protected from those nasty northerns that we get here in Texas which manage to get down to the valley and cause havoc down there. It didn't protect them last winter. I used to live in Zone 10a in the San Jose foothills. Sighhhhhh!