All my cuttings are shriveling up from the top down, what am I doing wrong. They are not cold and they are not sitting in wet dirt and they are not dry. Any ideas? Can they be saved. Even the two cutting I have in water are doing the same thing. I change the water everyday.
Help my brugs are shriveling up
We need pictures.
Sounds like die back. I do not start cuttings in late fall or winter because they all shrivel up and die on me. Cuttings started in April thrive, October for me is a death sentence. Ken is right, we need pictures to properly diagnose.
sometimes some hydrogen peroxide in the water will stave off rot. I use a lot of it through the winter to treat plants.
This one has roots.
These two are in water.
I know the feeling!! Oh what a shame.
Sometimes fall and winter cuttings just have gone too dormant to grow roots. Or they were stressed when cut. I always try to have my brugs well hydrated for a week before I take cuttings to give them more of a chance.
The 2 not rooted look rotted at the base. If no good wood left, even if there is bit of good wood, I think it is beyond hope.
I will say if the one in dirt is rooted, leave it be and you may be surprised with a shoot coming up by the roots. I just would hardly water it at all until it sprouts. Good Luck!
In spring cuttings really root so much easier for the brug is in growth mode. Try to get some fresh cuttings then.
Thanks Kell, I was just hoping something could be done. I'm going to go pout now.
Someone else might have a different take, you never know!
Here's a different take...!
Put that rooted one behind some others where you can't see it.. hide it from yourself... forget about it... When you see it growing taller than the ones you put it behind.. then you will be thrilled.. If it doesn't make it? You will be over the hard part when you discover it later.
I hope this helps. I am starting cuttings todate. The last ones that came in the mail were 11-15-07. They are rooted, potted and growing well.
I keep my big plants growing through the winter under lights. I am rooting my cuttings, to be sent to friends and for trades next spring, by then they will have been potted and growing.
I always start cuttings in water, have no luck with starting in soil, either keep soil too wet, or too dry.
Pic shows green cutting, I suspend in the water, by putting foil/ around cutting, or waxpaper over top of jar, hole for cutting to go through, to hold from touching bottom of jar. Older woody cuttings can touch bottom of jar. See how close under the dbl. florescent lights I keep the cuttings? I have well water, so don't know if city water with chlorine would hurt or not. When I change water every couple days, I run water so it is warm/not HOT!
They look just like the ones I struggled with my first year and the reason I stopped doing late fall winter cuttings. As Kell said, they had gone into dormancy. Wish I could tell you otherwise, it is just the way it is.
Sorry I didn't respond last night we were in tornado warnings all night. Our last one was at 3:30 this morning. A few of them wind hogs touched down in the area but all is well here, not so fair just south of us. One death so far and numerous injuries.
This was my first time doing cutting, they were given to me,( thanks Mary), but I killed the babies.
ZZ I stuck the rooted one out with the rest of my plants in the garage, like I was ashamed of him. Maybe the plants will incourage him to fight. Crossing my finger.
Thanks everyone so much for all your help and understanding.
Who's Mary??
We had tornado warnings until 2:00 a.m., but only had high winds 40+ all night, thank Heaven!
Gloria
mpabbott1, She gave me the cuttings. I feel so awful about them.
Glad evything is okay for you Gloria.
Glad you are ok also Robyn. This weather is crazy! 60+ degrees.
Takes time to learn all the "little tricks" to growing cuttings and seeing them bloom. You might see the one in soil take off, hope so.
Much luck!
Thanks for your help. I will go throw them out, except the one. He's in the garage and I will forget about him.
Robynznest, I had two starts of Mountain Treasurer also, both in the same glass. One is beautiful, grew roots and leaves almost immediately, the other started roots slowly, leaves even slower, then the leaves shriveled up, and then the stalked started shriveling and the bottom in water started getting yuckie. As soon as I figured out what was going on I changed the water took the "ill" one out. I think I will let the "ill" one air dry, cut off the rotten part, cut off the top part to new flesh, then wrap in moss like zz suggested.
I am very sad like you and sure don't want to lose any. So far that is the only one I have had trouble with. Fingers crossed, knock on wood, and all that good stuff.
Joyce
Gloria, your cuttings look great. Maybe it is keeping them close to the lights that makes the difference. Guess I will give that a try. Did you take these cuttings from plants you have under lights through the winter??My plants under shop lights don't grow much, just kinds hang in waiting till spring. The plants I have under LED lights are outgrowing their space and I need to make some adjustments.
I gave up on winter cuttings, I was either killing them or the fungus gnats where hovering around.
Joyce, thanks, I'm going to try to do that on one and see if I can save it. Maybe between that and they way Gloria has her I can save at least one.
Brenda: Yes, these green cuttings are from my growing plants. The ones sent to me in November were woody cuttings, I started them with no trouble have them potted and growing.
Another suggestion, I put the jar on a can, or something to get it up higher under the lights, just so leaves aren't touching light. Put a white lid under jar, or if I have jar on a peanut can, have silver side up, this reflects the light to the bottom so roots will start.
Hope you can understand this.
Gloria
And here I was letting mine root on the window sill because I was afraid so much light would stress them since they didn't have roots.
I think I will try your way Gloria. You sure have been growing brugs a long time and doing it so well. But no water. LOL. They seem to hate my water. Though a few do OK. I usually do them in soil and then in a plastic bag. I used to get close to 100% success but no longer so I am game to try new ways. Of course I have been doing these in late fall. I do think it helps if the cutting is from an actively growing plant.
Wish all of you luck if you try in water. I tried your way Kell, in soil, plastic bag. Never got the first one started, I tried many times, different times of the year. They did take a long time before kicking the bucket tho', maybe a month...........
I scanned every single post. And I draw the conclusion from Kell, Gloria and other experienced brugs growers which is: Light is a big factor in rooting our brugs during the winter. Robyn, 1/3 of my Fall rooted brugs met their demise sitting in my make-shift gh, others bigger, taller brugs (where they reached the lights provided are doing better, and even bloom this time of year in gh), those short cuttings that didn't get enough light, one day they were seemingly fine, the next few days, they look 'puny' then shrivel up. Those I received late during the winter, that are being rooted in water. Most of the green tips cuttings died, hardwood cutting rooted, still another 10% demise. So I go for the majority votes to harvest our cutting during the growing season which has a better chance of survival? (before they went into dormancy).
Kim
I do sometimes when I remember add some hydrogen peroxide to the water to increase the oxygen. I have tried the bubbler method, and it worked ok, but attracted fungus gnats. These have worked ok, but not great, I don't think i have ever put the cuttings under lights. Guess if I ever get tempted again to try late fall or winter cuttings I can try that.
Spring and summer cuttings I just push them into moist and sand wait. I don't think I have ever lost any that way.
I may try some under my LED lights. The way my seedlings are growing under them you would think they where outside in the summer.
This picture is of seedlings I started last summer, they dropped all of their leaves when I brought them inside. I put then in a make shift grow box with LED lights, they have taken off and have grown right into the lights. i had to adjust the shelves today to give them more room. The red and blue lights do make the colors look weird, but they all have nice green leaves and one is y'ing.
I am not experienced at growing brugs but I just think it is Mother Nature and some make it and some don't. Just like the two I had in the same vessel, same light, same everything, except one is doing great and one is "ill".
Joyce
That is true Joyce. If I get some in the mail, they might have been damaged or were taken from a "not in best of health" plant, they might die for no apparent reason. Sometimes if I see they are not starting, I cut a new bottom and put back in water, then most start rooting.
Brenda: Yours' look great, even if they are not green(lights).
I am going to try and do something. There is still good green on part of the one. I'll cut and then put it under the grow light and see if that helps. If not, at least I know I tried. I have 2 noid brugs that I got a couple of years ago during the winter. I stuck them straight into dirt and had grow lights on them, They bloomed last year, maybe I should have done that instead of water.
Photosenthesis, light is a vital part of plant growth.
Thanks Lily that is the key that I forgot.
Best of luck, Robyn, we learn from our past mistakes. Lot of time that's the lesson that stay with us. I too have lost quite a few, I scratched my head....hind sight is 20/20. From here on out, it's going to be much better. Chin up.
Kim
Bet I won't forget the light trick ever again. lol Thanks
UHOH! A Bug was eating my Brug. It was some kind of black-looking Beetle. I squashed him just now but not before he had feasted on some of my wonderful DGer Brugs tender new leaves growing in the basement☻
That is just downright disrespectful. How big was he?
By the damage it left behind, the large missing chunks on the leaves. Could it be snail or slugs?
HA! He did show disrespect for the DGers,now that you mention it Robynznest. I felt so bad for you when I saw your thread. Anyhow, that bug wasn't very big,just about the size of this☻but boy did he put holes in leaves and chew some tiny leaves right off. I hunted and hunted till I found the little bugger,I was so mad at that bug,I showed no mercy. I have come to love those Brugs so much,I would be heartbroken if anything bad happens to the 10 I have left.
I confess some of the Brug cuttings got mushy and died yesterday for no apparent reason and I have been haunting the Brug Forum on and off looking for help,but 10 of the cuttings are doing extremely well
Hi Kim☺ Nope! It was definitely some kind of a beetle that I have never seen before.OH NO! I live in fear of snails and those dreadful slugs☻
Do you think it was a earwig maybe?
Keep an eye out for more just in case.
Is a earwig a Beetle kimarj? The Brugs came from 2 Georgians and I can't remember if DonnaB is from Texas, but some were from the Contest she had. I thought maybe a bug hitched a ride☺I guess it is more likely the bug was in the decomposed soil I used from under the White Pine Trees. I have never seen this particular bug before and I am not too good at IDing yet.
I am keeping the eagle eye out for more Robyn. If only one was eating the leaves,more would finish my baby brugys off for sure. Actually,Cordledawg sent me two Confederate Rrose cuttings and they are growing beautifully too! So I really have 8 Brugs left + 1 that probably won't make it. It got mushy,but inside the mush are all these green stringy fibers so I left it in its pot of soil to see if it can survive☺Lucky me, I eended up with 14 Brug cuttings to try.
It seems like a miracle to me to have any Brugs because in our area the Brugs are very expensive and I just couldn't bring myself to pay $40 at a Garden Center a few years ago when I first saw one.
Dgers are the most generous folks I ever met.
I feel like I am on a mission to save the Baby Brugs☺
These were bare root cuttings a few weeks ago of the Confederate Rose. I have been watering the Brugs and the Rose with rain water,no fertilizing.
I did dust the stems with rooting compound before I popped them in the dirt pots, but that is all I did other than watering. They are in the basement and get some Western light through a window and they get some florescent lighting when I do the laundry.
