bee balm?
or any of the nightshade plants that grow in texas? or any other weird poisonous plant? even the ones with stickers?
does anyone have monarda citriodora seeds? or other native
No Bee Balm, I do have Datura wrightii, which is indeed poisonous, but you probably have that on already.
Josephine.
Same here - I kept looking for the others but they are hard to get seeds of.
Well I will bite....
OK Barbara, what are you looking for poisonous plants for?????
Mamajack, you are welcome to drop by and dig out the three types of nightshade that grow on the ranch:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/54503/
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/31750/
http://texnat.tamu.edu/CMPLANTS/toxic/plants/westernhorsenettle.html
Since all three are toxic to cattle, we try to mow them down before they seed if we can't get around to spraying them. So I don't have any seed. The Western Horsenettle and the Silver leafed Nightshade are perennial and once established are very difficult to get rid of. I'm not sure if the American Nightshade is an annual or a perennial. Right now all are dormant. They will be easier to find when they sprout in the spring.
oh, sheila, i laughed out loud on that one. i am looking for this stuff for a person from france and you ought to see all the things they grow that are in this family. she wrote me asking for the bee balm seeds and i just thought i would see who had any of these other things since she had so many in the solanum family.
and what she has is salvia glutinosa seeds if anybody likes that plant...and there is the reason i am looking for this stuff. so nobody has to die over this thing...at least not yet. lol.
and bettydee...i might just ask her if she has these particular varieties and i might try to find a trade for you next year when they come up so i can get plants from you that i can collect seeds from. i really want this salvia.
LOL!! That's your story and youre sticking to it, huh!
That person from France contacted me too and seemed rather insistent, but I am under the understanding that you are not supposed to trade plants out of the country and told her so, but maybe I am wrong about that, does anyone know for sure?
Josephine.
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It is very hard to get a lot of plants in and out fo the US. The US government will want you to pay to get a permit to get their seeds to you, and you will might be in trouble if you sent them something that they should not get.
my experience with overseas mailing is this:
lycoris bulbs sent to england and canada
daylily sent to pakistan
hibiscus to puerto rico or somewhere down there
dicliptera to canada
iris to canada
i have received seeds from all of these places. i have received plants from puerto rico and there is this guy on ebay that says he can ship bulbs to the u.s. from one of the south american countries.
i could not receive my iris from canada due to the u.s. agriculture dept. but she got mine.
even if you could send plants to france about the only thing that might could make it would be a daylily or a cactus or some plant like that.
The permit is not difficult to get and can be done on line. There is no charge. The permit is given within a few days. It takes about two weeks to get the labels. I applied for a permit to import "small lots of seed". That means I can buy or trade a small number of seeds for personal use.
There are reasons for regulating what comes into the country and are usually related to keeping harmful pests out of the country. If done legally, the permit will redirect the seeds to inspection points where the seeds are checked then sent on their way. The process for live plant material is a little longer and usually requires a quarantine and inspections for which the importer has to pay. The reason is the same as for seeds. Unfortunately, pests usually do get in because not everyone does this legally.
A prime example of where this can lead is very close to home. A fungus native to Asia was found in Houston a few years ago. It is considered a delicacy and in Asia it doesn't cause any problems. Here in Texas it found the perfect hosts and has no predators. The mycelia are microscopic, land on trees, work their way to the cambium and destroy it killing the tree. By the time the dying tree is noticed, the spores have been released to infect other trees. This past summer, the fungus was found in several dying trees in Austin. NO cure and it is spreading out from Houston. It is thought that someone brought some spores or fungus with them to have a little bit of home.
I have seem this question debated on other forums. The aim of these regulations is to protect the agricultural industry upon which we all rely. But how effective they are depends on us. Even when all precautions are taken, pests can still come in. The fire ant got here legally in a shipment back in the 1930s.
Bettydee, I wasn't relating to your post until I got to the last statement! #$(*& Fire ants!!! Gggrrh!
right? and I learned the hard way.. trying to get an orchid in from Costa Rica to myself here that they can fine you too....
Yes, I forgot to mention that, too.
Sheila_FW, I have a prescription salve that I have to use on bites otherwise I get large infected welts. Besides the bit definitely hurts!!!
