what I am afraid it is...
please tell me this is not....
I do not think it is SB. Looks more like a wound.
closer view
If it were mine, the only thing I'd worry about is fungus getting in.
i hope it is not but please look at the rest... I am very scared
Is it only those two spots? Is it a cutting you got, or off your own plant?
edited to ask. What cultivar is it? Or what cross?
This message was edited Nov 18, 2007 12:41 PM
It is mine frim a cutting I got last year. I think it is Dr.Seuss.
This is on a different cutting. I don't even know now if it is the same plant as the other one
Sorry these are a bit blurry
another
So what do you think?
It's so hard to tell. Do you have a macro setting on your camera where you can take close-ups and focus on the cutting? Maybe that would help a bit.
And, you're not sure if this is from one plant or two?
Well, I don't know what it is, but my Dr Suess had something like that.. it spread up the branches with splits. Nothing around the nodes and no black spots to indicate SB.
Here is one of the first threads that I started about it.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/669959/
I tossed Dr Suess 2 times.. 2 different plants, from 2 different places. Jamie got it too.. Jamie is gone now too. It has not spread to anything else at this time.. but I don't have anything with yellow suav influence now.
I do not know... The really horrible part is we cut a lot of them down yesterday and I stripped and cleaned as many as I could and then we ran out of time so we just plopped the rest into buckets... The unknown ones I did noat mark. Today when I was woring on more I found those. They were in the same bucket (I know, Iknow) but I dont think they are the same plant. I need to find out if I need to destroy everything in that bucket. I certainly hope they are not.
The first pics are from a 5 or 6 ft cutting and those are the only 2 on it. The are very close to the bottom. and there is no a sign of anythin else. If it is not SB then I can cut above the spots that look bad. but if it is SB there would be no use in doing that, What do you think about the other spots?
Well, I never got a clear answer on what it actually was, but I can tell you that I tossed Tequila Sunrise and Tropical Sunset this year just in case. For 3 different plants (2 different Dr Suess & 1 Jamie) to get the same symptoms 2 years in a row was enough to scare my out of yellow suaves for good.
Mixing in the same bucket is a big gamble!
If it's just Dr Suess, I'd burn em.
Don't rely on my input! I am only sharing my experience, not my wisdom.. Or lack of.. LOL Really, you need some good pics and consult the experts.
I am curious if the pics I posted look like the ulcers you have on those cuttings..
This message was edited Nov 18, 2007 1:24 PM
I know.... We had to hurry and I hadn't noticed anythin when we were cutting them. I think the ones in the same bucket were mostly the same plant. This is the first time I have seen a problem...
Dr suess was one of my favorites this year. And the only one I could smell! But if I have to, I have to!
I always tell Cori "it's always better to be safe than sorry," and that it's always better to "err on the side of caution." Obviously, you're worried about these cuttings, and based on that alone, if there's any kind of question as to whether or not a plant is healthy or diseased, it would be best to burn them as ZZ said than to keep them or trade them.
Edited to say that, ZZ, the ulcer in the second picture you posted in the upper right hand corner, does seem to resemble what Yardqueen has posted, but it's hard to tell because of the blurriness of Yardqueen's pictures. Could you maybe take more pictures?
This message was edited Nov 18, 2007 4:28 PM
Yardqueen, try taking the pic from farther away.. see how good the leaves in the background were focused? I know it seems like it's not gonna work, but you can crop it to just the branches.
I will go out and try to do better. I think there is enough light. But I had decided to just do away with those. Oh and it was NOT Dr. Suess like I thought. It is an unknown. So all of them are unknowns but not the same...
What is SB?
Kim
I do not think it is SB. If it was a Brug worth keeping I would say isolate it and see what happens. If it was SB, then you picked it up somewhere and it could show up again. If the Brug is a NOID, then there is no reason to keep it. There are too many great Brugs out there to keep it even if it was healthy.
Ok, I got some better ones. I tried harder to focus. It is kind hard to hold the branch with one hand and take pictures with the other. especially the big ones... LOL
another one
No, Ken is right. You have a lesion of some kind, probably due to injury or maybe a moisture excess and it erupted there. It's not SB. SB will always have a black outer area and a sunken center, from what I've read.
What about these?
and these
Are they yellow? If you just cut them I'd be curious to see if they root.
ZZ, A good number of my brugs lost their tags before I ever planted them out in the beds. On the no ids I did not mark them when I cut them. Only the ones I knew I marked with paint pen. These where not marked so they are no ids and I don't know now which bed they came from, so I dont know if they even bloomed this year. So I really don't know what color they are.
Here is a picture of the beginning of Stangelbrand on a plant with yellow way back in it's parentage. Look at the difference. It needs to have the black in it to be considered stem rot or Stanglebrand. At least, this is what I've been told. You will have to enlarge the picture to really see it. The lesion appeared in two days. I'll post another view.
You can see how the spot is sunken in a bit. This is a sign of SB. I have had two cases of it over the last six years. I didn't keep it around long as soon as I saw it. It's not something I want to play with. Therefore, I don't have pictures of a good case of it.
Thanks Brugie! I am beginning to feel a little better. I think it is just some sort of damage. I was really worried, but I guess all's well! I will keep an eye on all of them though througout the winter.
Thanks Kenboy and and ZZ and you too Felicia!