First up we have pubicalyx. I think.... Not sure which cultivar though. I hope it is Royal Hawaiian Purple! But of course I won't be disappointed no matter which one it is.
Showing off the few I have ;)
Then we have H. cv. Sunrise. I love the little leaves on this one. :D
Up next is Hoya cv. Christine. I hope I didn't put this one it too big of a pot. I love these fiberglass pots because I can make hangers for them. The stores only seem to carry basket hangers for plastic pots. Not a fan of plastic pots. Just personal preference. I later read that Hoyas should be in smaller pots as they like to be pot-bound. I think it will be alright, I probably just won't see any blooms for a while. I can live with that. I've lived thus far without them.
Beautiful Hoya Bella. This is one of my favorites. She's been good to me so far. I rescued this one from HD a few years ago.
Let's not forget h. carnosa "Krimson Princess" Or at least that is what it was sold to me as. This is the first one that I ordered off the internet. Even though it is very common, it is still my favorite. It isn't very fussy, grows fast, and I love the new foliage on it that comes out red. I still haven't gotten it to bloom yet though. I'm still awaiting any first blooms. I just know it will be soon!!! ;)
And last but not least we have H. imperialis var. Rauchii. Well, actually, I got this one from Carol along with the Sunrise and Christine. The tag she put was actually imperialis "Pala Wan." So I'm not quite sure. Maybe she can clear that up for me if she happens to come along. This one still looks a little peak-ed from it's journey across the pacific. I'm hoping she's going to make it.
Just one more of imperialis
Hi there,
Gorgeous hoyas...thanks for sharing :)
Seems like you have a peduncle on your H. cv christine, so blooms might come along sooner than you think!
The one you have labeled as bella looks like H. lacunosa to me. EA is notorious for mislabeling their plants, and I know that they call their lacunosa "H. mini wax leaf - bella".
Also, the one you have as H. carnosa 'Krimson Princess' is actually H. carnosa 'Krimson Queen' (the variegation pattern is reversed). I feel the same way about that hoya - even though it's common, it's one of my favorites.
Gabi
OMG I would flip if I did finally get blooms. What exactly is a peduncle anyway?? Sorry, I'm still one of those blissfully ignorant gardeners. :D I shall have to research the bella. I guess there is probably no way of ever knowing for sure until she blooms huh? And only the heavens know how long that might be. I've been good to her for two years, and still, not a bloom. And by a reversed variegation pattern do you mean that the white is on the outside rather than on the inside? Oh I hope you're right about blooms!! Thank you for sharing you're knowledge. Never can know too much.
Well, you technically can't ID something for sure until you see blooms, but you definitely do not have a bella. It's a lacunosa. And that's one of my favorites - the blooms smell delicious! Also, lacunosa is an early bloomer.
Carnosa, on the other hand, can take YEARS to bloom! I've heard that it can take 7-10 years. So just enjoy the foliage and be happy when you get blooms :)
A peduncle is a little stem that grows out of the main stem, and that's what the blooms will grow from. In your H. cv christine pic, it looks like you have one between the top leaf and the next 2 leaves (it looks like it's coming out of that second node).
Peduncles look quite different depending on which hoya you have. Here are some examples:
Here is a peduncle (with buds growing out of it) on my H. carnosa 'Krimson Princess'
Oh, I forgot to answer your variegation question. Krimson Queen has the white on the edges, and Krimson Princess has the creme/white in the middle (inside).
Ok, back to peduncles! Here's another peduncle, with some buds that are about to pop open (on H. motoskei):
Oh, I just found a good pic of my H. carnosa 'Krimson Princess', to show you how the variegation differs from Krimson Queen:
Here's my H. lacunosa (you can see how much the foliage looks like your's), and you can also see the gorgeous blooms on it. You will see this soon, I just feel it! You can also see the peduncles where the blooms come from - you see how much thinner and longer these peduncles are in comparison to the Krimson Princess peduncle?
And here's the last one, since I think you got the point by now :)
This is my H. pachyclada (which actually looks a lot like H. cv christine, and the peduncles look the same as well). You'll see a peduncle on the upper left of the plant, and also on the lower right (this one has some small buds). These are "older" peduncles - basically, they grow new "layers" each time they bloom, making the peduncle look longer. If I recall, the peduncle (at least I *think* it was a peduncle!) in your pic looked like it has already bloomed several times.
I hope this picture show helped. And make sure you post your blooms when you get them!
This message was edited Oct 22, 2007 9:57 PM
Oh, I see now. And yes, the plant came like that. So I think it must have bloomed for carol. How will I know if it is about to bloom again or if that is just the peduncle left from last time. i felt the peduncle, and it is all hard. If it was about to bloom it would be soft right?? I wish I had known earlier what peduncles looked like. I cut one off of my pubicalyx a few months ago. Talk about kicking yourself in the @$$. I thought it was just an old area where the vine had stopped growing. No wonder I haven't had any flowers yet! Those blooms are so beautiful. I'm green with envy.
Jeremiah
Well, I'm sure it has bloomed for Carol (I've gotten a bunch from her that have peduncles on it, and you can also tell by the pic that it has bloomed several times already). But once there is a peduncle on a hoya, it will continue to bloom from that peduncle over and over again. This might not be the time of year, but as long as you don't cut the peduncle or the stem off, you should see blooms from that peduncle eventually (I'm guessing Spring or Summer). There are certain hoyas that drop their peduncles after blooming the first time, but not too many do that (and yours doesn't do that, so no worries!).
No, the peduncle wouldn't be soft if it was about to bloom. You will undoubtedly know when it is about to bloom, because you will see little buds growing from the tip of it. If you look at the peduncle on the upper left side of my H. pachyclada, you'll see tiny buds forming - that's what it will look like at the start of the "blooming cycle".
I know how you must feel about cutting that peduncle off of your pubicalyx! But no worries - if it grew a peduncle already, then that means that it is "blooming age", and will soon form another peduncle.
Sending blooming vibes your way,
Gabi
Well, after looking at many many pictures on the forum, I have found you were right about the bella. It is indeed a lacunosa. So I was just wondering Gabi if I treat it the same way as a bella. Currently I have been giving it the same regimen as all the other hoyas. It gets spritzed once or twice a day, watered when it starts to get dry, and always a couple of drops of ST in the water. I have been using old coffee and tea for fertilizer, but I ordered some MSU out of curiosity and will begin my regimen of that once it comes in the mail. (Should be this Thursday!!!!) How wet does the lacunosa like it?? Also, does it like direct sun? It is now windy windy windy fall, so I've brought all my plants in. I didn't put this one outside with the rest of the hoyas in the summer though because the darn EA tag said curtain filtered light only. So I was afraid that the sun would burn it. Thanks so much for you're help! You're a great teacher!! :D
Jeremiah
PS I wish I didn't know what a peduncle is now. I constantly check that thing to see if there are blooms coming out of it. My bf tells me I am crazy. If only he knew!
Jeremiah,
No need to thank me - we are all great teachers here (and great learners!), and this is such a wonderful group of people.
I hear ya on wishing you hadn't known about peduncles! I was so content before I was aware that hoyas even bloomed - now I'm constantly checking for peduncles and trying to do the best I can so that I can see those purty flowers! If your bf thinks you're crazy NOW, wait til' you REALLY get out of control with your hoya addiction! I used to get the same thing from my gf, but now she has succumb to the power of the hoya :)
Lacunosa likes to stay on the moist side. I never wait until it is dry before watering. Same goes with bella (from what most people say - but I have horrible luck with that hoya, so I'm the LAST person to give advice on that one!).
Gabi
Oh, and direct sun should be fine for your lacunosa. I keep my lacunosa (and ALL my hoyas in an eastern window. No filters. I also put a bunch of hoyas (including EA hoyas) outside for the Spring and Summer months. Of course, it's not as hot here as it is in Texas! But as long as you keep an eye on your hoyas to make sure they aren't frying, you should be fine. Some do like to be in the shade, but I don't think the ones you named don't mind being in sun. I'm sure other members here will chime in on that though.
Also, a sacrifice you might make with higher sun exposure is that the foliage might start to looked faded and bleached out - but the pro to higher sun exposure is MORE BLOOMS!!
Gabi
As I read these postings I wondered about the true names of the diff hoya. I have aquired a Bella from another DG'er and a Krimson Princess at a silent auction and both didnt look like was was posted so of course I started to doubt myself.........(posting my pics of each) all advice on the care and expectations of each is very welcomed
1st the Bella......
my princess
closer
Hi Anaid,
I remember you posting about your H. carnosa 'Krimson Princess' and asking for an ID - the ID that was given to you by the DG members was correct. Any reason you think differently?
The bella (I believe that's the one you recently gave an update on) was correctly ID'd by the DG member who sent it to you.
I'm not sure if you were again looking for ID's, but you have the right ID's on them already. What makes you doubt it?
Care info is pretty basic - carnosa likes to be mostly dry before watering, and bella seems to like to stay pretty moist. As far as sun, see above to see what I wrote to Jeremiah. Hoyas seem to like a loose soil mix and like to be potbound.
HTH,
Gabi
just wanted to make sure my "varieation" was correct and not reversed and I find she 's a Queen and not a Princess....(????) Not knowing duncanji's expertise made me wonder if the one being labled Bella was correct and mine wasnt actually a Bella. My purpose in having the correct Id is mainly to know how to care for them properly. Im not about proper names for their heritage or status in possessing certain plants. Its all simply to have some knowledge of whom Im caring for. More than 1/2 my plants dont have proper names; I have purchased them for the way they look and because they fit in my garden......oh and also because they are like me "low maintenance".
I can understand you only wanting to know the names for the purpose of giving them the right care. Just make sure that if you ever trade or give away cuttings from the plants that don't have the correct names, you either tell the person that or try to get the correct ID (sometimes it's tough to get a guaranteed ID, and in that case you can just write "NOID"). I am WAY too OCD to have any of my plants mislabeled, let alone half of them - but to each his own!
If you look at my post above with the pic of my KP, you'll see the variegation pattern for KP and KQ explained. I wrote "Krimson Queen has the white on the edges, and Krimson Princess has the creme/white in the middle (inside)." As for the bella, it was also stated in the posts that it was actually lacunosa. Hope that clears things up for you.
Gabi
Ha Ha, Anaid, you're post made me chuckle. The one about me having "expertise." Trust me, I'm the last person you should look to for correct naming of hoyas! I too just started collecting not too long ago, so I'm still very much a student here in the forum. And I hear you about low maintenance plants. I feel the same way, especially here in Texas where on a normal summer day they all dry out in about an hour and a half under the scorching Texas sun. This summer did seem to be an exception though with all of our wonderful rain. Do you garden outside with native plants? I find that those are the most low maintenance. My houseplants and hoyas are exceptions though. They are labors of love and I don't mind how much extra care they need.
Gabi, I hear you on the OCD thing about naming plants. I'm a stickler for having the right names. Partly because it bothers me and partly because when people ask what it is I like to sound intelligent when I can spout off the names of my plants. Plus I hate how there are fifty million different names for one plant due to years of misinformation being passed around.
duncanji: I have one corner of my large yard that is dedicated primarily to plants that grow naturally in my region. The only maintenance for those is the annual remulching (like to use the red one for contrast)
I have other areas where I have things like my Tropical area-ee's , banananas, things like that and then a flower area. The front is just hostas and crepe myrtles. It's fun having different outdoor rooms like that to sit out and enjoy or warm days.
