my last

batch of new hoya babies for the year. Its starting to cool off here now and I don't want to risk any damage due to cold so this is the last set of new hoyas for me for the 07" season. I'm working on an 08" list already though!!!

These are from a non U.S. source and I received them in less time that it takes for me to mail a package to California!!! Go figure that one out!!! This goes to show just how lame the U.S. postal service is!

This is what I received :::

archboldiana variegata
australis ssp. oramicola
australis ssp. rupicola
kenejiana red
kenejiana variegata
mindorensis (orange )

along with 3 other NOID"s which are all quite interesting. One of them very closely resembles cummingiana but in very miniature form. It could be a dischidia of sorts but I dont know as I I know absolutely nothing about dischidias


dmichael

This message was edited Oct 12, 2007 1:35 PM

Hey dlambii - are these the same hoyas that you put a picture of on the addictive personalities thread? The ones from Thailand? I really can't see the variegation in your variegated archiboldiana, but am a bit intrigued by it.

You are such a wheeler and dealer, you never cease to amaze me!! By the way, I have a picture of my lambii that is finally starting to grow. This isn't the large leaf one that you were trying to con me out of, but the regular size one - IML 1046. I just may catch up with you yet.

I think my picture may be too dark, but you should be able to see the new vine that you said you didn't believe I have! HA!HA!

I do think that I finally have roots on my big one though. It only took 6 months - yikes!!

Cheers,
S

Sara,

Nice lambii! Do you happen to have a pic of the large leaf one?

Gabi

Thanks Gabi, I know the picture was too dark...wrong time of day to take pictures, and I know that I shouldn't take them into the sun.

Here is a picture of my large leaf lambii. It is only one leaf, we struggled, but I think that it is out of the woods now. I have it next to the regular lambii, to show the difference in size- I think it is pretty impressive. How is your IML 1800 that you just received doing? I found mine really hard to root, but finally succeeded with the straight pearlite method that Marcy favors.


S

Sara - how are you growing your large leaf lambii? I have one that just sits there.....

David - nice score!!

Karen

Ummmm Karen, what you see there is just ONE leaf!! HA! I am the absolute wrong person to ask how to grow that large leaf lambii. I started out with about 14 nodes and two leaves, and am now down to one node, one leaf, and lots of prayer!!

It took 6 months to get that one leaf to look like anything other than wrinkled up shoe leather, and it is finally plump!! The other lambii cuttings are actually growing well, and when the weather turns here, it turns fast, so I am just getting into my new watering schedule of every other week. Nothing is drying out right now, so I have to put the watering can away, and forget it exists for at least 2 weeks. It is so hard when it seems to go from 90's to 40's almost overnight.

I think that you could safely say that mine is just sitting there too. Dmichael has offered to take it to S.C. and grow it out for me...I am sure that he would do the same for yours if you would like. :) I don't even want to admit how much I have spent on lambii over the last couple of years. I have new growth on all of my lambii IML 1046, but none on the IML 1800 yet, I am hoping to see some soon.

S

This message was edited Oct 13, 2007 9:44 PM

This is a great thread! My last attempts for the year are these:

H. australis variegata Lisa
H. multiflora 'Speckles' GPS 10110 21002
H. bella variegata
H. camphorofolia GPS 8845
H. crassicaulis GPS 10042
H. sp IrianJaya28
H. minahasse GPS 8816
H. salweenica GPS 07074
H. verticillata GPS 10080

And here's a shot of these in their nursery. I'm finding they're not rooting as quickly as the cuttings do in the spring. I'm going to add some heat occasionaly to see if that makes a difference.

Christine

Christine, beautiful cuttings!

A few that mentioned in your list, I ordered too from PS.
He sent them 12 days ago, but I didn't got them yet.


This message was edited Oct 14, 2007 4:27 AM

Maykela, I'm in Canada, and this order took exactly seven days to reach me. I sure hope yours aren't lost in transit!
Christine

Christine,Thanks.

It's always takes between 12-14 days to arrive,it's because of the GOOD and
efficient postal service at Israel.I have lost three cuttings of several shipments.
At the pic that I post, only the H. limoniaca (that looks bad) died.

Sara, That offer still stands!!!! You have my address. NO!!

Nice order, Christine!!

And Sara, don't tell David, but I'd ALMOST consider letting David have my lambii to grow out - have you seen how his plants thrive in S.C.???


Karen

Ohhh yea Karen, I have seen dlambii's plants. They are absolutely drool worthy. I thought about sending my cutting of large lambii to him too, and really would probably have, but am afraid that I would disturb the delicate roots that are still forming, causing more harm than good.

David is someone that you could certainly trust to return it to you too...HA! I do think that I will order yet ANOTHER cutting of that one come time for the spring order to David Liddle though. The size difference is pretty amazing I think.

Gabi, lets see a picture of your large leaf lambii cutting - I am curious how it is doing.

My round waymaniae lost one of its two leaves, so I certainly wouldn't say it is thriving either. I have cuttings of the other clone though, I think they are probably the same as the one you said you ordered from Carol.

S

I've already started my spring wish list for David Liddle. In fact I started it before the last order arrived!! The first plant on the new list is the IML 1800 lambii.

Nice looking cuttings Christine and Maykela. Christine if you don't mind me asking did you get those cuttings form Paul Shirley? I have bought from him several times and had very good luck rooting his stuff but like yourself I do find it a wee bit harder to get things to root this time of year as the temps begin to cool down some.

dmichael

Thanks dmichael.

I'm so happy ! The cuttings from Paul Shirley arrived.They look very well,
I've soaked them for a few hours and then I've planted them.

dmichael, I have bought from Paul Shirley several times ,and I like the cuttings
that he sent.The only problem that I have is, the long time that it's take them to get
to Israel. May I ask if you ever bought cuttings from Botanova in Sweden?
I would like to order from them next spring.

In the pic,the new cuttings.

Yes, dmichael, I got all but the bella from Paul Shirley. Great service, and wonderfully healthy cuttings.

Christine

It normally takes 7 days from the time Paul lets me know that he has shipped for me to receive my cuttings and each time they have looked as if he just cut them and put them in my hands.

Maykela I have never ordered form Botanova but have their site saved to my favorites and have considered ordering form them may times but just havent gotten around to doign so yet. Maybe in the spring i'll give them a try.

dmichael

Sara,

I actually ordered the regular lambii (IML1046), but I am pretty sure I got the large leaved one (IML 1800). Maybe he was out of 1046. After looking at your pics, I am 99.9% sure that I actually have the larger one. If you remember my leaf pic from the David Liddle post, it was HUGE in comparison to my hand! Another possible "giveaway" is that I root most plants in either a 2, 3, or 4" inch pot - but I had to root the lambii in a 5.5 or 6" pot!

Anyway, my lambii came with 5 leaves and it even had a peduncle (but that fell off during the rooting process). Believe it or not, lambii was one of the quickest to root of all the Liddle cuttings. It is doing really well now in terms of the root system, but hasn't grown at all yet. By the way, I'm sure your big leaved lambii will take off soon - maybe just stick it in the best location possible.

I am at work, but I will be sure to post a picture of it when I get home. I'll also use my hand for size reference so that maybe you can help me figure out which lambii it is!!

Gabi

I bet that archboldiana variegata is a beauty. I wonder if it is a slow grower....

I got a regular archboldiana from Carol a couple years back and it was one gorgeous plant..hmmm, I wonder if she has a variegated one.

S

This message was edited Oct 16, 2007 1:10 PM

Susan, I have the pink,red and white clones of archboldiana and all 3 are very fast growers for me. I'm not at all familiar with the variegated clone but would assume that like the others it also grows fast. Time will tell though!! I only received 2 node cuttings of each of these hoyas and the leaves on this particular one were still young and soft even though the vine had already hardened off a bit. The variegation was only slightly noticeable but it was there!

It's now been a week since I received these cuttings and so far none are showing any signs of rooting. I hope I didn't wait too late in the season to get them. I'd really hate to loose that variegated archie or the variegated kenejiana,I don't think there are very many of those floating around in the states.

dmichael

Sara,

Ok...here are the pics (by the way - if you didn't get a chance to read the post that leads up to this, scroll up to the most recent post of mine on this thread!).

Here is H. lambii, the full plant. It was taken on an angle so that you can see all 5 leaves (2 leaves kinda "stick" together):

And here is one of the leaves, with me holding it for size reference. I measured it, and the leaf is 5" wide by 7" length.
So whadya think - is it the large leaved one or the regular one?
Thanks!

Oh wow! I take it back that H. lambii hasn't put on new growth! I just looked at the last pic I posted, and I saw a baby leaf growing from the node above the leaf in the picture! I checked on the "actual" plant, and it's real - YAY!

Gabi

David, I got "my last" (last cuttings, I didn't say last rooted plants) just under 2 weeks ago, and they have all rooted as of today - so I don't think it is too late. Not yet ....

The only one of mine that isn't real tight to the soil is ariadna, which I had originally put in water to root for a hydro pot, and for some reason it started to get stem rot....maybe because it was such new growth. I took it out and put it in soil and it seems to have some roots now, though it isn't doing as great as all the others.

I checked the Thai hoyas again today and noticed that some of the aerial roots on a few of them have fuzzy new white growth on the ends of them so I still have hope!!!!

dmichael

I have ordered from Botanova...good cuttings!!!!

Can someone give me a link to them...I seem to have lost it....

Carol

Carol,
I found this link. It seems a little awkward to navigate but it works.

Robin

http://www.uk.gardenweb.com/directory/b4/

Gabi, I finally got around to measuring my large leaf lambii. You were spot on with your measurements. My large leaf lambii measured 7 1/2 inches from top to the stem, and about 6 1/2 inches across. I think that my regular leaf lambii is about 4inches long, and 3 inches across.

I would have to guess that you ended up with the large one, but I would think that is a bonus maybe.

I am totally jealous - your cutting is huge, and I love the new growth that you have going on.

S

Thanks for checking that for me, Sara :)
That's definitely a bonus! I'm really excited to have the large leaved one. I'm assuming that both versions have the same flowers, so it would be almost impossible to know definitely if that's the case, right? Maybe I'll get the smaller one next time around and see if there's a big difference.

Thanks again for your input,
Gabi