Is this mandevilla? I searched plant files and nearest I can see is "White Chilean Jasmine /
Mandevilla sanderi 'Alba'". The throat of the blossoms in the pics in PF looks slightly different though, more solid orange than this one.
I was given a cutting but the person who gave it to me wasn't certain what it was.
Thanks,
Deb
Could be Mandevilla laxa too, that one's also white. I can't remember if the flowers look quite like that one though.
How about this one Deb.
http://www.kartuz.com/pc/67907/6FLV2/Mandevilla+boliviensis.html
Looks like it's definitely a mandevilla. I'd say ardesia ardesia has it pegged. Is it fragrant? I have heard talk that mandevilla laxa is fragrant, but none of the white mandevillas sold locally as laxa have any sort of fragrance.
-Joe
Joegee: That's where I was confused I think, because this one is not fragrant. Well, I'd say it's one or the other! :) At least I think all agree that it is mandevilla, so now I know how to take care of it - if I manage to root it.
Thanks everybody.
I have had the same response. A lady named Chrissy from Australia was talking with another lady in here from South Africa. Both insisted m. laxa was fragrant. No m. laxa I have ever seen around here has had a smell. The blossoms are certainly lovely, and I see one of the names for this is Chilean Jasmine. Maybe it needs a really warm climate, or a special kind of soil to be fragrant?
-Joe
I've grown M. laxa and it definitely has a fragrance (although not a really intense one that grabs you as you walk by--I had to stick my nose close to the flowers to notice it). I'm not sure why they'd be fragrant here and not elsewhere--we do get occasional days that are warmer than what you'd see in Ohio, but for the most part our summer highs are in the 80's, and the year that I grew it, it bloomed earlier in the year before we got any hot days. And I definitely don't have special soil of any sort! Maybe humidity kills the scent? The other possibility is that there's variability between plants--since it's a species and not a named cultivar a lot of plants may have been grown from seed and there could be some variability in the level of fragrance because of that.
Ecrane: Does the one in my pic look like M. laxa to you?
Deb
It could be, but I think it looks more like M. sanderi 'Alba' or M. boliviensis (I think sanderi and boliviensis may be synonyms but I'm not sure). The real way to tell is leave it out for the winter--if it survives then it's M. laxa, and if it doesn't (unless the winter is really mild) then it's not. I'm not sure if you want to do that test though!
Ha! Pretty tough test. :) No, I don't think I'll try that. Although,...if I can manage to have 2 of them, I could leave one out and keep the other in the greenhouse. Hmmmm.
Thanks for the tip.
Deb
This is Sun Parasol White Mandevilla. I should measure flower for you.
The leaves are similar to Alice DuPont though not as puckered. A bit softer too.
ecrane,
It might be the difference between greenhouse tomatoes and garden-grown tomatoes. A greenhouse m. laxa might be be forced, with hormones, etc. Maybe after some time growing more naturally in a non-sterile environment with regular cycles they grow more fragrant?
-Joe
I don't think so, mine came from a place that was growing it in a greenhouse and it was fragrant the first year I had it as well as after that. I think it's either natural variability within the species, or some climate effect, or possibly the unscented ones are actually a different Mandevilla species and were mislabelled.
Have to agree with Kell, it looks like what I have called 'Sun Parasol'
There are so many now. I see new ones all the time. I bought a red and a pink mini ones last month. They are adorable.
Here is a list I found last night.
Mandevilla
Mandevilla
Mandevilla 'Best Red'
Mandevilla 'Cotton Candy'
Mandevilla 'Crimson Jewels®' (Magic Dream)'
Mandevilla 'Janell Rosey Pink'
Mandevilla 'My Fair Lady'
Mandevilla 'Pink Leah'
Mandevilla 'pink'
Mandevilla 'Red Velvet'
Mandevilla 'Red'
Mandevilla 'Ruby Star'
Mandevilla 'Sun Parasol Crimson'
Mandevilla 'Sun Parasol Giant Crimson'
Mandevilla 'Sun Parasol Mini Crimson'
Mandevilla 'Sun Parasol Pink'
Mandevilla 'Sun Parasol White'
Mandevilla 'Tango Twirl®' (Monrey)'
Mandevilla 'White Delight'
Mandevilla 'white'
Mandevilla 'yellow'
Mandevilla x 'Sun Parasol'
Mandevilla x amabilis pink 'Moonlight Parfait®' (M
Mandevilla x amabilis pink 'My Fair Lady'
Mandevilla x amabilis pink 'Pink Parfait®' (Rita M
Mandevilla x amabilis pink 'Red Velvet'
Mandevilla x amabilis pink 'Summer Snow®' (Monte)
Mandevilla x amabilis pink 'Sun Parasol'
Mini Crimson Mandevilla
White mandevilla
http://www.lgyp.com/results.asp?pID=64285&srg=CA&biz=2
There is a variegated one that I have my eye on as soon as it is available for retail.
It wants to live with me. LOL
I want to live with you too. Well, at least live in your garden anyway.
Tango Twirl is so pretty but I killed that one faster than a speeding bullet.
Magnolialover might be on to something. Although I have never seen a white one, our WalMart carries some of the other Sun Parasol dipladenias and I have never found one with a scent.
Well folks, I'm totally confused now. ;- ) I'm learning alot about mandevilla, though.
Maybe my friend will find the tag!
Deb
Nope, mine doesn't smell like anything, just looks pretty.
I think Mandevilla laxa is the only one that's fragrant, the rest of them are just for the looks!
This is Mandevilla Laxa from last year.
Laxa has a smaller leaf than the 'Sun Parasol White."
Ada has her eye on that variegated one too. LOL. She really wants it. She has to bribe me to get it for her.
Kell, that variegated mandevilla is spectacular!
-Joe
Deb, have you seem this post? http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=3776801
This lady grows the most fabulous mandevillas
Going to take a look now, Ardesia. Thanks!
Joe, I wish it were mine but I have 2 on order as soon as they hit the trade!
It is beautiful, Alice.
Hi i am chrissy from Australia.....glad to have found this thread ...I was told to come over here and identify the puzzle of the scentless M Laxa....lol.First of all the picture submitted at the top of the thread is not M.Laxa....very nice though....I would describe all the mandys here as the flamboyant relatives of M .Laxa.Rather like some modern Roses who have forgotten the fragrance in return for spectacular. The pictures in this thread are all the scentless Mandys except for ahelms :) the one I am talking about....if you have a close look you won't see a golden throat- and the vine and leaves are more dainty looking
Of course it is far from dainty in growth ...most prolofic and reasonably cold tolerant (being deciduous) in fact that is the only downside....being a bunch of tangled sticks in Winter ...you can cut it down to a few inches at this point if you wish or leave it if you don't mind the look.The perfume on a warm Summer night is devine ...as I have described it before to my nose like gardenia...sprinkled with nutmeg.It is one of those flowers like cherry pie sometimes the flower itself does not seem to be intense close up....but a few feet away you may walk into a stream of fragrance that almost takes your breath away.It says in my garden bible that it is the vine to plant if you can't flower gardenias (for the fragrance) but I don't know what the perfume would be like if your Summer is not warm enough.I love it very much and searched for it for many years after finding it running 40 feet along a fence of an abandoned old house....a wall of beauty and fragrance on a humid Summer day at about 5 in the afternoon...never forgot it....had to have
it .If you want to buy one you will have to ask for the "old fashioned fragrant one" I am sure they will then get you the right one.Good luck with it and by the way I have a lot of the bright unsmelly rellys- they are lovely too but the M'Laxa has my heart. :)
AHHa, I was going to say ahelms photo looked more like a jasmine and sure enough, in Googling it, it turns out M. Laxa is also known as Chilian Jasmine. I had never made the connection between the two. The mandevilla/dipladenia thing is confusing too.
Chrissy: The one I posted at the beginning of this thread, if I understand you, is NOT Laxa, but may be some watered-down descendent of Laxa. Have you ever seen one like the one in my picture that has the gold throat but not "solid", as I hope you can see in the photo. It's more of a gold band, then a paler, more yellow throat behind.Every photo I have been able to find of any white mandevilla with a gold throat, the yellow/gold is solid. The flowers on this one are no more than 2.5" total in diameter. Absolutely no scent whatsoever...no matter how warm it is or how deep I bury my nose in it. :)
Thanks,
Debbie
Hi Debbie....I am no expert and I only go with my own experience.The Mandivilla in your picture looks just like my "White Fantasy" which is a hybrid from M.Boliviensis....it has a paler gold in the throat than the Boliviensis.I have been watching some of the chats and I have noticed that our names sometimes vary (ozzy ones called different names to the US ones)....I think it is a marketing thing) Laxa is a word used loosely over there....here there is only one Laxa and that is the fragrant one.I have a feeling that there is a great deal of confusion due to this.Just enjoy your pretty flower......are you hooked on them now? :)
chrissy
Chrissy: Oh yes, hooked is a good word. :) I have a couple of pink ones but this white looked so beautiful on my friend's fence..
It doesn't really matter in the end what it's called, as long as I know how to take care of it properly. I'll just put it in similar conditions to those in her garden, and go from there!
Thanks for your help.
Deb
Here is a picture I took of a White Mandevilla at a garden center a few days ago.
Here is a picture of one of my Pink Mandevillas.
That is so pretty....my daughter in law works at a plant nursery and I get a lot of the ones that they have chucked out......when I am reviving them what I notice is that the twining is wound around 3/4 bamboo stakes and this is how they achieve that really full look at the top.Sometimes those twining vines are 12/15 ft long.. ...while the plant may appear to be only 2/3 ft high....just gives the illusion that their plants are more healthy and dense than ours...anyone can do it though if that is the look you want :)
Betty: Well, if you've got a speed limit sign in front of your home, THAT'S what to do with it! LOL! Beautiful.
My pink mandevilla (Sun Parasol) is only a foot high for some reason. Maybe it got too cold (it was in ground over the winter). I'm thinking of getting it into a pot instead so I can over winter it in warmer conditions. I had been told it would be ok over the winter and would come back, and it did, but at this rate, it won't be ready to flower until October! Is yours potted or in-ground?
Deb
Deb,
All of mine are in the ground except the one that I posted that is in the planter and that planter has all new soil in it only Miracle Gro potting soil and Miracle Gro Garden soil. I tried to save one one year in my basement and it was cut way back and dropped all the leaves and I brought it outside in early spring and it took forever to rebloom --like in August. So I just do not try that anymore. But some at DG are telling me to just mulch the ones in the ground and they will come back. I replied if I did that to the one in the Speed Limit planter--I would have to moved to the backyard because it would take forever to get that big and bloom and I like to have the front yard in full bloom by Derby Day--in Louisville which is the first Saturday in May.
I would venture to guess I am probably the only one in this nation with a planter around a Speed Limit Sign.
chrissy,
That is exciting that you get all those plants they toss out. That would be fun to revive them back to beauty. That is a great idea about the bamboo poles and I am going to try that next year. Ask your daughter-in -law what she thinks may have happened to my Red Mandevilla vine. It started dropping yellow leaves from the start and it was planted in the ground. I did not notice Whiteflies on it until it had dropped a lot of yellow leaves and then I sprayed Insecticidal Soap and got rid of the Whiteflies but it was still dropping leaves and I finally tossed it. The lady at the garden center said the red ones do not like as much water as the pink ones and that I may have over-watered it.
Also do you grow the newer Supertunia Vista Bubblegum Petunia in Australia? I just love it and it spreads like crazy. It is one of the Proven Winners varieties and I have lost 3 in the ground so far this year and lost about 3 in the ground last year. The ones in pots are doing fine. I emailed Proven Winners and they can only say I may have over-watered. One day they looked great and the next day they looked like they had not been watered for over a week and that is not the case---I water all plants in the ground every other day. I will post a picture of the Pink Bubblegum that is doing fine in the planter and this is only 2 plants---they really spread and this one has already been trimmed twice to keep it off the lawn.
