Help Please - Passion Flower - no blooms

Marion, WI(Zone 4b)

Hello I am new to passion flowers and I bought one last summer and kept it over the winter and it is growing beautifully but no blooms :(

Can anyone help me? I am not sure what else to do with it to help promote blooms.

Thank you in advance!
~Kim

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Marion, WI(Zone 4b)

Does anyone know where I can get help on this... please?!? Thanks much!

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

Kim Try Useing Bloom Booster for the Next Few Weeks WalMart And K Mart Sell It it should make it Bloom Paul

Dover, NJ

I agree with Paul, try the Bloom Booster. Even though most passiflora will bloom in the second year, they sometimes need 3 summers, so don't give up.

Good luck!

Cincinnati (Anderson, OH(Zone 6a)



http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/plantfinder/bloomd.asp?code=Q280

Kim--I looks like (from the graph in the link above) passiflora incarnata (assuming that's what you're growing) doesn't bloom until late in the summer in our zones. Yours will probably bloom later than those in the Kemper Botanical Gardens in St. Louis, too.

http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/plantfinder/plant.asp?code=Q280

Good luck!

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

yes.same thing here... no blooms yet.. although now a bunch of buds are starting.. the first year we get them in flower or flowering soon.. plant them and have blooms all summer... although these were maybe growing strong in the greenhouse since their cuttings were taken in the fall.. and were rooted out in December.. and before delivery were hopped up with all sorts of ferts and or growth/flowering regulators.. mine have been growing inside.. but are not in full sun nor are they given any bloomboosters or any sort of ferts duriing the winter..they go out with maybe 30' of vine on a few limbs on each plant.. and it takes them a month or two to get up and running in the fullsun and wind/rain and just now after the month or two of feeding and nutrient baths and now with the warm temps... they are starting to load up with blooms... it just seems late in the year... [ comparedto thefirst year ]..but I tell myself... it's only natural as they were really started when I put them out.. like in May ..and they have alot of vine to build up before they will flower here... but then that leaves... the rest of July.. August.. September.. October ..and into November for them to make piles and piles of flowers here before the frosts that have them comming back inside.. perhaps many hunderds of blooms on each plant... just be patient with them... as I try to remember these things and am patient with mine... Gordon

Marion, WI(Zone 4b)

Thank you everyone for your help. I will try the bloom booster. I was thinking about that but of course when I went shopping forgot it. I will keep my fingers crossed and hopefully it was bloom soon :) - Thanks again!!
~Kim

Palm Harbor, FL(Zone 9b)

I don't know very much about them, but the three kinds I have bloom a lot every time the neighbors cut them as they try to take over the neighbors yards. I know Florida is not Wisconsin though. But it sure makes them flower here to be pruned a little. Does anyone else notice this, or is it a coincidence that they bloom at the same time the neighbors get angry at them?

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

WELL..starting to get them in groups.. three are now going... pretty soon it will be harder to count them.. I guess it's " clearsky "
I saw a lovely wintered outside Passion flower in the Bronx the other day..growing aganst an apartment building.. it was so full of blooms.. 100's anyway.. such a beauty..
Gordon

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Satsuma, AL(Zone 8b)

Nice pic with the flag in the background.

David

Independence, LA(Zone 8b)

What I'm going to suggest goes against conventional wisdom but for this plant it will work. Passiflora incarta likes to be fertilized but you have passiflora caerulea which perfers not to be fertilized. It also likes sandy soil but make sure to water it well because it loves humidity. I used this website when I first got mine and it has done very well for me this year. http://www.floridata.com/ref/P/pass_cae.cfm

I did as suggested, threw rocks, brick pieces and sand into my hole before planting it and otherwise forgot about it.

Golly that thing is a weed here, in fact a triffid it is used as an understock and it suckers everywhere, having said that heck I don't know what your zones are over there but it looks cold. If your heart is set on it you will need to find a nice big brick or stone wall to grow it near, it will need some radiated heat, if you can't do that then a stack of black tyres will act as a heat bank. Good luck with it :)
chrissy

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

OH.. good to see life here..
Thanks David..
I try and fly it often . it makes a good back ground for everything.
Pie... Thanks.. nice growing site there... I always learn something new.. now if I could remember them all..
I chopped them up and moved them inside... I'm always expecting them to keep up the flowering.. but it is brutal move and there's little light or wind... next to no rain.. none of the things that make outside life interesting... inside.. maybe a bit later.. on the new wood...
So.. in interest in remembering.. with great loss.. the outside myself.. here's a few of the later fall pictures.. as they were just getting going ...
maybe it will happen again.. I think anything will be easier than global winter..
all the best for Ya'lls new seedlings there.... mine will hit the soil real soon...
Gordon

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Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

OH. maybe not 100 blooms as I thought back in July in this thread... most of the flowers are nestled inside the leaves.. and plenty on the other side of the fence.. here'sanother shot.. just before being brought inside for Thanksgiving..
Gordon

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Hammond, LA(Zone 8b)

Gordon, any new pictures?

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

Hi!!! I have tried bloom booster, 20-20-20, fish emulsion and foliar feeding..nada.

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Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

Well ..you only got the bloom booster a week ago.. it's not instant remedy... mine are stll yet to bloom this year...as I started new ones... do be patient with them..
it looks real good though... give them a chance... and you'll be rewarded..why not run some strings up for them to climb on... they like that.. and they won't have to grow in a mass above the pot..each leaf will get more sun that way..
what's your hurry.. anyway going to the beach.. Gordon

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(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

Nah nowhere to go lol! Been feeding my passi since May. Not shown in the pic is a line it's growing on. Ok I will have more patience : }
Thanks!
Kim : )

Independence, LA(Zone 8b)

I remember reading somewhere that caereula blooms better when the vines are allowed to droop freely away from the plant. When mine gets too wild looking I start wrangling in the vines and sure enough it will stop blooming. Seems to be happier when it I let go wild.

Fallston, MD(Zone 6b)

I planted a Maypop (P. incarnata) in the spring of 2006, and had no flowers that year, although it grew profusely. In 2007, I had one flower. Last week though, it started blooming with many frangrant, beautiful flowers! I think it's just a matter of time.
Here is this year's first bloom.

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Fallston, MD(Zone 6b)

A little closer.

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Pleasant Hill, CA

Planted the coral colored one of these and it hasn't bloomed much for many years now so I decided to string it to a second trellis round the corner and it seems to be blooming on the back side of the house better than along the back wall.
Problem is that this plant grows out of control and once a month I have to hack it off the Japanese Maple, the downspout and the window screen it reaches out and grows upon every 30 days or less.
Am considering removing it completely to prevent hostile takeovers.

I did try to propagate this plant through leaf cuttings and layering it on the soil surface (both with wounding the stems and without wounding) and was unsuccessful doing that as well. Perhaps it is a blessing in disguise. Can anyone comment on propagation that doesn't involve growing them from seed?

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

use root hormone on the cutings use growing ends from the plant put in straight vermiculte put pot in a freezer bag add air with a straw change air every other day should root in about 3 weeks paul

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

222... new pictures this year for new plants.. tiny cuttings were set out ..and now there are a few buds... not long now... no ID on it.. oe any of the others... one which I did know to be a tiny white one... I never saw come out of the rose bush where it was interred neaby ..
OH.. Paul... you gigantic Gordon's wild Panamaian plumeria seeds are on their way there.. sorry for my delays...
Pieohmy... yes.. this noid likes to hang ..aslo...
Gordon

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Hammond, LA(Zone 8b)

Beautiful picture Gordon.

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

JLP.. Thanks.. guess I should post the first flower of this hanger .. although it's also elsewhere ..
Gordon

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Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

what flower is that one?

Humble, TX(Zone 9a)

Gordon, may I ask what you feed them???
jana

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

Paul... MMMM Gee..I'm not sure.. I did have one from Donna B but she said it was a small white... this seems a good bit bigger than small to me.. I'll have to send her a picture of it.. I got others... but I'm not sure which gift it was from.. I've another in the same boat.. got any thought....
Jana.. oh...I'm sorry.. we'll have to start a thread of it's own.. for that question... you might also bring a lunch.. all this might seem excessive.. and I'd be the first to agree with you that it definately is.. much of it is due to what I have on hand.. and to try new items .. as a product research.. just to see what effect is noticable after application.. and because all of it is done in containers which contain a potting mix with about zo nutrients.. everything I grow has received all of this.. and most likely others..
In the early spring I apply alfalfa pellets...W/ molasses [ animal food ] and let it decompose till planting..
I plant with a decomposed.. dehydrated cow manure
I start spraying with my version of the recipe very early.. and most every day.. the ingredients of this varry with higher nitrogen ferts added at first.. and then more of a bloombooster fert added.. later in the growth cycle..
plants are fed in the water twice a week ,, first with a balanced fertilizer..and then later with a bloom booster type ..
Once a week for two weeks I spray with Spray- n - Grow/with their Bills Perfect fertilizer..
on the third week I spray with messenger .. then back fo two weeks of S-N-G
a partial list of other items I've sprayed or fed is Tiger Bloom.. dyna grow.. mericle grow rose food.. .the new russian hormone called EPIN.. another called Cirkon.. ironite.. fish emulsion.. and a few hydroponic foods with piles of minors in the watering or as a spray..and like I say... others also..
For what it's worth.. an opinion of all of this ... from someone obviously obsessed.. the garden has never been as green.. as lush.. or healthy... and disease or pest free.. but what else would you expect .... Gordon

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Stewart, TN

Is it okay to ask stupid questions? This is my first year to try planting a passiflora cultivar. They grow wild here all over the place but I wanted one in a different color. I checked the DG best-vendors list and ordered one - now I can't remember for sure but I think it was from Ecolage in Louisiana. It is growing like mad all over the brushpile but no blooms.

In some of the comments in this thread, people mentioned some bloom the second year. I thought these were annuals. Are they like tender perennials? Should I try to dig it and take it in, like a dahlia? Will it die back to the roots and then come back next year? It can't self-sow if it doesn't bloom. The one I ordered was marginally hardy for this area. Should I try to mulch it to protect it? Sorry to be dumb - maybe I shouldn't have planted a plant that I don't understand! But it doesn't hurt to ask, right? Thanks for any help out there.

Humble, TX(Zone 9a)

WOOOO!!!!!! Gordon,,,,So you said you feed them everything and the kitchen sink??? Did I get that correct? I have some of the things you mentioned but haven't tried them yet,,, but I"m gonna.
jana

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

Jana.. yes... the recipe I mentioned... has the kitchen sink stuff in it.. Amonia..beer.. molassas.. epsom salts..
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/803019/
and can be sprayed daily...
well..got to go up to see what's going on today... Gordon

Humble, TX(Zone 9a)

O yes,, I use that recipe on my Brugs. So , I have all I need to feed my passies, too. I didn't know they liked the same type of food.

Brooklyn, NY(Zone 7b)

HA HA HA well.. they might not .. but in my house... everyone eats what the cook prepairs.. no special orders from the kids .. Gordon
no the recipe is fine for most everything here... it makes everything so green though.. lots of " N " I have to alternate it with some heavier blooming things later in the season... even switching the make up of it .. from having the balanced ferts in it to the bloom booster in it.. it still carries a bunch of nitrogen anyway... so every few days I spray just a straingt blooming coctail on them..
Gordon

Humble, TX(Zone 9a)

Not a bad idea, cocktail, that is !!! ooo
I mean for the plants,,hahaha
jana

Independence, LA(Zone 8b)

Rebeccatowoc, do you know what kind of passi it is? Some will not be perrenial even for me way down here. A lot of the red ones die in the cold here (and that's not very cold). The caerulea, lutea and incarnata will come back more reliably. Since it is marginally hardy for your area mulch would be good for the winter. Passifloras also spread by runners and vines will root that touch the ground. Maybe yours is just not old enough for blooming yet.

I don't think you could dig it up and treat it like a dahlia but you could dig it up and place it in a warm sunny window for the winter if you are not sure if it will survive. Just treat it as a houseplant over winter. Maybe you could leave some of it in the ground to see if it will survive your winter.

Stewart, TN

pieohmy, thank you so much for the useful and specific information and suggestions. I will dig through my files and receipts to try to find out the name of the cultivar; I remember looking at several and picking one that was listed as hardy for Zone 6. As I recall the flower was white. I may very well try both possibilities: digging part and mulching part, as you hinted. It's in a protected area.

You are a fine garden neighbor, and I am grateful!

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

Well all my pining and whining over LM not blooming...lol my vine has bloomed not LM : }

(Kim) Philadelphi, PA(Zone 6a)

oops forgot the pic!!! It was tagged wrong..oh well.

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Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

Rebeccatowoc I would be interested in knowing the name of the one hardy for Zone 6. I have Incarnata and several others but just the Incarnata is hardy here.

I think I will dig it up and plant it in a large pot in the ground. It is already putting up sprouts everywhere and I don't want that.

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