Looking for Matelea decipiens

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Hi, I am trying to locate either a plant or seeds of this particular climbing milkweed. I am trying very hard to fill my garden with all kinds of butterfly and hummer attracting plants.
I would love other suggestions of what I should be growing to attract these .
Thank you

Palm Harbor, FL(Zone 9b)


Marie- Plantscout shows 4 nurseries that have it...

Adrienne

http://davesgarden.com/ps/search.php?search_text=Matelea+decipiens

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Thanks asafla but none of those are what I am looking for.

Cordele, GA(Zone 8a)

Try Easyliving Native Wildflowers, they have carried climbing milkweed vine.
http://easywildflowers.com/quality/mat.dec.htm

They may be out of the seeds. I don't know if they have potted plants of it though. Maybe calling them to see when it would be available again?

This message was edited Jun 19, 2007 7:39 PM

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

I did he is out and does not know when he will have it again.

Cordele, GA(Zone 8a)

How about posting on the seed or plant forum? Surely a DG subscriber somewhere has a stash for you.

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Did not those existed. I am off to look for them now. Thank you!!

Cordele, GA(Zone 8a)

It's the seed trading forum or the plant trading forum. Sorry, I left out the word "trading". Folks are most accomodating for sending you plants or seeds just for postage reimbursement as well.

You are in the right forum, (this Hummer/BF forum), for receiving lots of suggestions on what you should be planting to attract BFs. It's good to know what butterflies are commonly found in your area. Since you're looking for milkweed, you probably have Queens and Monarchs.

Nectaring plants are plentiful. BF's do like a landing pad, sort of speaking, so think of wide blooms amoung others.

Here's a list of host plants that I borrowed from some unknown source that I have in my DG diary. My mind and note takingskills are a bit rusty LOL.

Butterflies & their host plants

Butterflies most common to the South and their Host Plants


SWALLOWTAILS

Giant Swallowtail
- Citrus family, Rutaceae
1. Ptelea trifoliata - Common Hoptree, Wafer Ash
2. Zanthoxylum clava - Herculis - Hercules-club
3. Zanthoxylum fagara - Wild Lime
4. Zanthoxylum americanum - Prickly Ash
5. Citrus aurantifolia - Key Lime
6. Citrus limon - Lemon
7. Citrus reticulata - Tangerine
8. Citrus sinensis - Sweet Orange
9. Cirtrus x paradisi - Grapefruit
10. Citrus aurantium - Sour Orange
11. Ruta graveolens - Rue

Spicebush Swallowtail
- Laurel family, Lauraceae
1. Persea borbonia var. borbonia - Red Bay
2. Persea borbonia var. humilis - Silk Bay
3. Persea palustris - Swamp Bay
4. Sassafras albidum - Sassafras
5. Lindera benzoin - Spicebush
6. Cinnamomum camphora - Camphor tree
7. Litsea aestivalis - Pondspice

Pipevine Swallowtail
- Pipevine family, Aristolochiaceae
1. Aristolochia macrophylla - big leaf pipevine
2. Aristolochia tomentosa - Woolly pipevine
3. Aristolochia serpentaria - Virginia snakeroot
4. Aristolochia californica - California pipevine
5. Aristolochia fimbriata - white-veined Duchman's pipe
6. Aristolochia duror-
7. Aristolochia littoralis/elegans- Calico Flower
8. Aristolochia gigantea
9. Aristolochia trilobata
10. Aristolochia ringens

Eastern Black Swallowtail
- Rue family, Rutaceae
- Carrot family, Apiaceae
1. Ruta graveolens - Rue
2. Anethum graveolens - Dill
3. Foeniculum vulgare - Sweet Fennel, also Bronze Fennel
4. Petroselinum crispum - Parsley
5. Cicuta maculata - Spotted Water Hemlock - extremely poisonous if consumed
6. Oxypolis filiformis - Water Cowbane - extremely poisonous if consumed
7. Ptilimnium capillaceum - Mock Bishopweed
8. Spermolepis divaricata - Roughfruit Scaleseed
9. Eryngium cuneifolium - Wedgeleaf Eryngo
10. Daucus carota - Queen Anne's Lace

Palamedes Swallowtail
- Laurel family, Lauraceae
1. Persea borbonia var. borbonia - Red Bay
2. Persea borbonia var. humilis - Silk Bay
3. Persea palustris - Swamp Bay
4. Sassafras albidum - Sassafras

Zebra Swallowtail
- Custard-Apple family, Annonaceae
1. Asimina triloba - Common Pawpaw
2. Asimina pygmaea - Dwarf Pawpaw
3. Asimina angustifolia - Slim leaf Pawpaw
4. Asimina incana - Wooly Pawpaw
5. Asmina obovata - Bigflower Pawpaw
6. Asmina parviflora - Smallflower Pawpaw
7. Asmina pygmaea - Dwarf Pawpaw
8. Asmina reticulata - Netted Pawpaw
9. Asmina tetramera - Fourpetaled Pawpaw
10. Deeringothamnus pulchellus - Pretty False Pawpaw
11. Deeringothamnus rugelii - Rugel's False Pawpaw

Eastern Tiger Swallowtail
- Rose family, Rosaceae
- Magnolia family, Magnoliaceae
- Olive family, Oleaceae
1. Prunus serotina - Wild Black Cherry
2. Liriodendron tulipifera - Tulip Poplar
3. Magnolia virginiana - Sweetbay
4. Fraxinus americana - White Ash
5. Fraxinus caroliniana - Carolina Ash
6. Fraxinus pennsyvanica - Green Ash



SULPHURS
- Bean family, Fabaceae

Cloudless Sulphur & Sleepy Orange
1. Cassia/Senna alata - Candlestick plant
2. Chamaecrista fasciculata - Partridge Pea
3. Chamaecrista nictitans - Sensative pea
4. Cassia obtusifolia - Sicklepod
5. Cassia bicapsularis - Christmas Senna
6. Cassia surattensis - Glaucous Cassia
7. Senna mexicana - Bahama Senna
8. Senna ligustrina - Privet Senna
9. Cassia javanica - Apple Blossom Cassia, Pink Cassia as well
as many others in the Senna/Cassia family

Southern Dogface
1. Plants of the Pea family
2. Amorpha fruticosa - Bastard Indigobush
3. Dalea feayi - Feay's Prairie Clover
4. Dalea pinnata - Summer Farewell

Orange (Alfalfa) Sulphur
1. Plants of the Pea family
2. Melilotus albus - White Sweetclover
3. Trifolium repens - White Clover
4. Medicago lupulina - Black Medick
5. Medicago sativa - Alfalfa

Little Yellow
1. Plants in the Pea family
2. Mimosa strigillosa - Powderpuff


WHITES

Cabbage White
- Mustard family, Brassicaceae
1. Brassica oleracea - Garden Vegetable Cabbage
2. Brassica juncea - India Mustard
3. Brassica nigra - Abyssinian Mustard
4. Brassica rapa - Turnip
5. Raphanus raphanistrum - Wild Radish
6. Raphanus sativus - Garden Radish


Great Southern White
- Mustard family, Brassicaceae
- Nasturtium family, Tropaeolaceae
- Saltwort family, Bataceae
1. Batris maritima - Saltwort
2. Cakile lanceolata - Coastal Searocket
3. Cardamine pensylvanica - Pennsylvania Bittercress
4. Lepidium virginicum - Virginia Pepperweed
5. Tropaeolum majus - Nasturtium

Checkered White
- Mustard family, Brassicaceae
1. mostly Virginia Pepperweed
2. Capsella bursa-pastoris - Shepherd's Purse


GOSSAMERS (Blues, Coppers, Hairstreaks, Harvester)

Harvester
- In America, our only carnivorous butterfly.
They feed on woolly aphids of the genera schizoneura and pemphigus.

Great Purple Hairstreak
- Mistletoe family, Loranthaceae
1. Oak Mistletoe

King's Hairstreak
- Sweetleaf family, Symplocaceae
1. Symplocos tinctoria - Common Sweetleaf

Southern Striped Hairstreak
- Heath family, Ericaceae
- Rose family, Rosaceae
1. Vaccinium arboreum - Sparkleberry
2. Crataegus marshallii - Parsley Hawthorne

Henry's Elfin
- Holly family, Aquifoliaceae
- Pea family, Fabaceae
1. Ilex cassine - Dahoon Holly
2. Ilex opaca - American Holly
3. Cercis canadenis - Eastern Redbud - occassionaly

White-M Hairstreak
- Beech family, Fagaceae
1. Quercus geminata - Sand Live Oak
2. Quercus laurifolia - Laurel Live Oak
3. Quercus nigra - Water Oak
4. Quercus stellata - Post Oak
5. Quercus virginiana - Virginia Live Oak

Gray Hairstreak
- Mallow family, Malvaceae
- Pea family, Fabaceae
- Amaranth family, Amaranthaceae
- Aster family, Asteraceae
- Buckwheat family, Polygonaceae
- Buckthorn family, Rhamnaceae
- Soapberry family, Sapindaceae
1. Sida acuta - Common Fanpetals
2. Polygonella gracilis - Tall Jointweed
3. Chamaecrista fasciculata - Partridge Pea
4. Dalbergia ecastaphyllum - Coinvine
5. Desmodium incanum - Creeping Ticktrefoil
6. Desmodium paniculatum - Panicledleaf Ticktrefoil
7. Galactia regularis - Eastern Milkpea
8. Galactia volubilis - Downy Milkpea
9. Lupinus diffusus - Sky-Blue Lupine
10. Vigna luteola - Hairypod Cowpea
11. Phaseolus vulgaris - Garden Bean
12. Macroptilium lathyroides - Wild Bushbean
13. Froelichia floridana - Cottonweed - occassionaly
14. Palafoxia feayi - Feay's Palafox
15. Herissantia crispa - Bladder Mallow
16. Polygonum pensylvanicum - Pennsylvania Smartweed
17. Ceanothus americanus - New Jersey Tea
18. Cardiospermum corindum - Heartseed

Red-banded Hairstreak
- Bayberry family, Myricaceae
- Beech family, Fagaceae
- Cashew family, Anacardiaceae
1. Myrica cerifera - Southern Bayberry
2. Oaks
3. Schinus terebinthifolius - Brazilian Pepper
4. Mangifera indica - Mango

Eastern Pygmy Blue
- Amaranth family, Amaranthaceae
1. Sarcocornia perennis - Perennial Glasswort
2. Salicornia bigelovii - Annual Glasswort

Eastern Tailed-Blue
- Pea family, Fabaceae
1. Herbs in the Pea family and clover

Spring Azure
- Heath family, Ericaceae
- Buddleia family, Buddlejaceae
1. Oxydendrum arboreum - Sourwood
2. Dogwood
3. Buddleja davidii - Butterfly Bush
4. many other trees and shrubs

Little Metalmark
- Aster family, Asteraceae
1. Carphephorus odoratissimus - Vanillaleaf
2. Cirsium horridulum - Yellow Thistle
3. Mikania scandens - Climbing Hempvine


LONGWINGS

Gulf Fritillary & Variegated Fritillary
- Passionvine family, Passifloraceae
1. Passiflora incarnata - Maypop
2. Passiflora suberosa - Corky stemmed Passionvine
3. Passiflora lutea - Yellow Passionflower
4. Passiflora alto - 'Amethyst'/'Lavender Lady'/'Star of Mikan'
5. Passiflora caerulea - Blue Passionflower
6. Passiflora Sunburst Whorley
7. Passiflora allardii
8. Passiflora incense
9. Passiflora membranceae
10. Passiflora Platycodon
11. Passiflora morifolia
12. Passiflora edulis


BRUSH-FOOTS
(Admirals, Crescentspots, & Ladies)

Phaon Crescent
- Vervain family, Verbenaceae
- Acanthus family, Ancanthaceae
1. Phyla nodiflora - Turkey Tangle Fogfruit
2. Justicia ovata - Looseflower Waterwillow - occassionally

Pearl Crescent
- Aster family. Asteraceae
1. Symphyotrichum dumosum - Rice Button Aster

Question Mark
- Hackberry family, Celtidaceae
- Elm family, Ulmaceae
1. Celtis laevigata - Sugarberry Tree
2. Ulmus alata - Winged Elm
3. Ulmus americana - American Elm

Eastern Comma
- Elm family, Ulmaceae
- Nettle Family, Urticaceae
1. Ulmus spp.
2. Urtica spp. - Stinging Nettles
3. Laportea spp. - Nettles

Mourning Cloak
- Willow family, Salicaceae
- Elm family, Ulmus
1. Salix spp. - Willows
2. Ulmus spp. - Elms

American Lady
- Aster family, Asteraceae
1. Pseudognaphalium obtusifolium - Sweet Everlasting
2. Gamochaeta falcata - Narrowleaf Purple Everlasting
3. Gamochaeta pensylvanica - Pennsylvania Everlasting
4. Gamochatea purpurea - Spoonleaf Purple Everlasting
5. Pussytoes
6. Rabbit Tobacco

Painted Lady
- Aster family, Asteraceae
- Mallow family, Malvaceae
- Pea family, Fabaceae
1. Burdock
2. Cirsium horridulum - Yellow Thistle
3. Malva sylvestris - High mallow
4. Hollyhocks
5. Lupines

Red Admiral
- Nettle family, Urticaceae
1. Urtica dioica - Stinging Nettle
2. Urtica urens - Burning Nettle
3. Urtica chamaedryoides - Heartleaf Nettle
4. Boehmeria cylindrica - False Nettle
5. Parietaria floridana - Florida Pellitory

Common Buckeye
- Ancanthus family, Ancanthaceae
- Broomrape family, Orobanchaceae
- Plantain family, Plantaginaceae
- Vervain family, Verbenaceae
- Speedwell family, Veronicaceae
1. Dyschoriste spp. - Twinflower species Oblongleaf & Swamp
2. Agalinis fasciculata - Beach False Foxglove & other False Foxglove
3. Ruellia caroliniana - Wild petunia
4. Ruellia succulenta - Thickleaf Wild Petunia
5. Verbena hastata - Blue Vervain
6. Orthocarpus spp. - Owl's Clover
7. Plantagos - Virginia, English, & Common Plantain
8. Linarias - Canada & Apalachicola Toadflax
9. Occassionally Turkey Tangle Fogfruit

Red-spotted Purple
- Rose family, Rosaceae
- Willow family, Salicaceae
- Heath family, Ericaceae
1. Salix nigra - Black Willow
2. Salix caroliniana - Carolina Willow
3. Prunus serotina - Wild Black Cherry
4. Vaccinium stamineum - Deerberry

Viceroy
- Willow family, Salicaceae
1. Salix nigra - Black Willow
2. Salix caroliniana - Carolina Willow
3. Salix babylonica - Weeping Willow


Satyrs & Nymphs

Southern Pearly Eye
- Grass family, Poaceae
1. Arundinaria gigantea - Switchcane

Gemmed Satyr
- Grass family, Poaceae
1. Chasmanthium laxum - Slender Woodoats

Carolina Satyr
- Grass family, Poaceae
1. Axonopus fissifolius - Common Carpetgrass
2. Oplismenus hirtellus - Woodsgrass
3. Stenotaphrum secundatum - St. Augustinegrass
4. Urochloa distachya - Tropical Signalgrass

Georgia Satyr
- Grass family, Poaceae
- Cyperaceae family, Sedges
1. Andropogon spp. - Bluestems most probably
2. Sedge
3. Bulrush

Little Wood Satyr
- Grass family, Poaceae
1. Grasses

Common Wood Nymph
- Grass family, Poaceae
1. Andropogon virginicus - Broomsedge Bluestem
2. other Grasses


MILKWEED BUTTERFLIES

Monarch
- Milkweed family, Asclepiadaceae
- Dogbane family, Apocynaceae
1. Asclepias currasavica - Tropical/Scarlet Bloodflower & Silky Gold Milkweed
2. Asclepias incarnata - Pink Swamp Milkweed
3. Cynanchum laeve - Honeyvine
4. Asclepias fascicularis - Narrow-leaf Milkweed
5. Asclepias speciosa - Showy Milkweed
6. Asclepias physocarpa - Balloon or Swan plant
7. Calotropis gigantea - Giant Milkweek or Crown Flower
8. Asclepias tuberosa - Butterfly weed
9. Asclepias curtissii - Curtiss' Milkweed
10. Asclepias humistrata - Pinewoods Milkweed
11. Asclepias lanceolata - Fewflower Milkweed
12. Asclepias longifolia - Longleaf Milkweed
13. Asclepias perennis - White Swamp Milkweed
14. Asclepias tormentosa - Velvetleaf Milkweed

Queen
- Milkweed family, Asclepiadaceae
1. All of the above for Monarch except rarely A. tuberosa
2. Sarcostemma clausa - White Twinevine
3. Matelea floridana - Florida Milkvine
4. Morrenia odorata - Latex plant


SKIPPERS

Spread-winged Skippers

Silver-spotted Skipper
- Bean family, fabaceae
1. Amorpha fruticosa - Bastard Indigo
2. Robinia pseudoacacia - Black Locust
3. Amphicarpaea bracteata - American Hogpeanut
4. Apios americana - Groundnut
5. Wisteria frutescens - American Wisteria
6. Wisteria sinensis - Chinese Wisteria
7. Pueraria montana - Kudzu
8. Desmodium tortuosum - Dixie Ticktrefoil

Long-tailed Skipper
- Bean family, fabaceae
1. Centrosema arenicola - Pineland Butterfly Pea vine
2. Centrosema virgianum - Spurred Butterfly Pea vine
3. Clitoria mariana - Atlantic Pigeonwings vine
4. Clitoria ternatea - Blue Butterfly Pea/Asian Pigeonwings vine
5. many species of the Ticktrefoil(Desmodium)
6. many species of the Milkpea (Galactia)
7. Vigna luteola - Hairypod Cowpea vine
8. Sesbania punicea- Scarlet Wisteria Tree/Rattlebox
9. Wisteria spp.
10. Rhynchosia minima - Least Snoutbean
11. Glycine max - Soybean
12. Wild Bushbean & Garden Bean
13. Pueraria montana - Kudzu
* will also lay on Aristolochia tormentosa, Garden Radish and Showy Rattlebox but the young cats will not survive

Juvenal's & Horace's Duskywing
- Beech family, Fagaceae
1. many types of Oaks

Common Checkered, White Checkered, & Tropical Checkered Skipper
- Mallow family, Malvaceae
1. Sida acuta - Common Fanpetals
2. Sida rhombifolia - Cuban Jute
3. others in the Mallow family

Folded-winged/Grass Skippers

Fiery & Whirlabout Skipper
- Grass family, Poaceae
1. Cynodon dactylon - Bermudagrass
2. Stenotaphrum secundatum - St. Augustinegrass
3. Digitaria ciliaris - Southern Crabgrass

Good luck to you!

Cordele, GA(Zone 8a)

Can ya tell I'm putting off doing laundry? LOL

Here's a wonderful thread in the Wildlife forum for Butterfly plant resources too.

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/734581/

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Cordeledawg thanky ou so much for this list. I cannot believe you took the time to shre this information. I will print this off and start researching which of these plants will survive in my area.

I have a couple of the plants on the list so at least I am off to a start.
I just received some very tiny but roote pieces of Aristolochia serpentaria . I have Aristolochia fimbriata and also our native watsonii. I also have Cassia bicapsularis, Popcorn cassia, several varieties of passion vines and at this moment I cannot remember what else.

Doe sanyone know where I can obtain . Mimosa strigillosa ?

Cordele, GA(Zone 8a)

Sounds like you are off to a good start in your collection of host plants. If you could google Native Plant Society, maybe one for AZ or TX, that site could offer suggestions on where to purchase native plants for your area. You may try googling Mimosa plants and see if a nursery pops up. The Ga Native Plant Society gives suggestions on where to look and how to rescue native plants in our state. Good luck! Keep posting your progress!

(Becky) in Sebastian, FL(Zone 10a)

Marie - Sounds like you are off to a good start with the host plants. I don't know if you have seen this website yet, but it gives you an idea of what butterflies frequent your county. And if you click on the butterflies listed it will give you more detailed info about each one:
http://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/map?dc=5490&_dcc=1&si=3

If you click on your state in a search you will get more butterflies/moths listed. Sometimes there is a shortage of people reporting the sightings and there may actually be many more that frequent you! Good luck. Sorry I can't help you on the Mimosa strigillosa. There are many plants in the Mimosa family. Would some other cultivar work?

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