I don't know if anyone can ID this Hoya by the blooms, but I thought I'd try. :o) It's not a great picture, I know, and it's not blooming now, so I can't take another one. It had no fragrance at all that I could detect. Not a great picture of the leaves, either, but I can go snap a shot of those if need be. :o)
Thanks!
My first guess would be H. carnosa. A shot of the leaves/plant would be good.
Thanks, Aloha. I'll go take a picture now...
Here's a shot of the whole pot. It was a huge tangled mess of vines curled in a circle growing in a dish of water. There's a peduncle on the vine sticking out on the left, and another on a smaller vine which is too brightly lit on the bottom right. I'll attach a picture of it next.
This is the smaller one.
There are several bare vines sticking out all over that had rooted at one point, but the roots have dried up now. Should I leave them, cut them off and try to root them, or cut them off and throw them away?
I know it looks a bit sad now, but I'm trying to take good care of it. The first sniff of a H. lacunosa bloom and I was completely hooked on Hoyas! LOL
Forgot the picture...
I am going to guess H. carnosa...or H. motoskei although the latter seems to have rounder and darker green leaves.... VERY NICE plant!!!
Hi RG, I see we have the same passions for plants. Pretty bloom.
Waving hand~~~Carol we need your help here. What do you do with bear stems, but with good roots still.
Patti
This message was edited Jun 10, 2007 1:18 PM
Thank you very much for the compliment and the ID. :o) I'm really hoping I can get it to bloom again.
It was suggested to me, privately, that I may have potted the smaller one in the last picture upside down, as the peduncles usually form on the upper side of the leaf nodes. I can rearrange that one fairly easily, because it's small, to lay it on the soil so that it can root from what is now the upper end of the vine. I, obviously, have no idea what I'm doing and since these vines were rooted from each and every leaf node, I may have others potted upside down, too. I ended up splitting the mass into two pots. Do I need to completely repot them if others are upside down? That sounds dumb, and I'm sure the answer is yes, but thought I'd ask anyway. If I do need to do that, I could cut those naked vines and try to get them to reroot. Any opinions on that?
Thank you so much for all the help! I'm determined to succeed with these! :o)
Hi Patti! We do keep running into one another on the same boards, don't we? ;o)
The ones with dried up roots are still attached to living vines, not cut off separately, so I guess maybe they're still alive and just the roots that didn't get put in soil died. I don't know about these things! LOL I just couldn't figure out how to fit it all into the pot. I've since seen pictures that showed how to coil them around in the pot, but didn't know to do that at the time.
Rain, I am learning too. If I don't ask I will never know the answers, so I ask a lot of questions too. That is why I love this forum, because everyone is at different levels of learning,but the ego's are left at the doors. It's all about having fun.
Patti
This message was edited Jun 10, 2007 1:25 PM
It's wonderful that those who *know* what they're doing don't look down upon those of us who *don't*. :o) I appreciate all the help so much, because without all the advice I get here, I'd never have any hopes of growing any of these plants successfully. I've progressed to the point that I can offer bits of information on the AV board, but here I'm still the newbie that has to have tons of help. LOL
RG...the peducles are supposed to form out of the top of the node...along with new growth that forms from there, too. Roots emerge from the bottom of the nodes.
With a leafless vine with roots...do you mean you received it that way or it is growing that way???
So that one is upside down...Ok, I'll work on getting it turned the right way.
I guess you'd say I received them that way. When I bought them, they were in about a 14" plastic drain saucer all curled around together like a wreath with pretty much the entire vines in the water. There were probably 3 or 4 cuttings that were about 2 or 3 feet long each and they were tangled together, both vines and roots, so that you could pick the whole mass up at any one point with two fingers and it would hang in the air all curled together. I wish I had taken a picture of it like that as it's hard to explain. It was just a wad of vines and roots, that's the best way I know to describe it. They had leaves coming from the nodes for several inches, then several inches of no leaves, then more leaves, etc, with roots coming out of basically all of the nodes. I hope that makes sense.
Anyway, when I potted them up, I had to untangle the whole mess. I didn't think to curl them around in the pot, laying on top of the soil. I buried the ends that had roots and cut the vines into sections, and buried another end with roots, and so on, because I was afraid they would die from not having enough roots in the one place on the end to support the entire vine if I left them whole. I guess I never should have cut them.
Here are some pictures. See how there are (were) roots all over the place? Some of the vines are drying up and dying at the ends. I guess I should cut those off. I sure hope I haven't done something that will kill these. :o(
Another view...
One more...
Don't worry about what you did or didn't do, I just chopped the heck out of a carnosa I was separating from another hoya to repot. ( the two of them had been entangled from roots to tips together in the same pot for over 10 years )
There was just no way to do it gently, I had to get rough. Knives and scissors were involved.
2 weeks later and it is getting new growth already. They are pretty hardy and determined plants.
I have a bare cutting ( NO leaves), but the roots are healthy will it produces leaves where they once were or will they eventually die?
Can you tell I am a novice? LOL
This message was edited Jun 10, 2007 4:10 PM
Rose...yes, it should produce either growth from the existing nodes OR send out a shoot from the root ball....no worries....
Thank you, Bhavana! That makes me feel much better! There is new growth, so that's a good sign. I've sure been worried, though! I've killed several Hoyas, by underwatering almost certainly, so I'm trying to keep these much happier. I have a few others that are doing well, but this has a couple peduncles, so I don't want to lose it.
Great question, Patti! And thank you, Aloha, for an encouraging answer to it. :o)
you killed hoyas from UNDERwatering? Wow. You must be one of those people who waters twice a year! More plants die from over than underwatering, so be careful... from experience I have found that the majority of hoyas like to go dry between waterings - the trick is to check them often so that the dry period is only a day or so, not weeks or months.
LOL You have no idea of my underwatering ways. But, I'm really, really trying to do better. I can't imagine overwatering will be anything I'll need to be concerned with, though. I'll keep the day or so max on dryness in mind. Thank you very much for that advice! :o)
Thanks Carol so very much for your help.
Patti
