I have these two Hoyas that I received from cuttings around three years ago, and I would really like to know what they are. They have never bloomed. Sorry the picture is not better.
Can Anyone Help ID These Two Hoya
The First Hoya has very thin flexible stems and leaves nothing like a Carnosa. All the new growth is very red and gradually turns green.
The second Hoya has very stiff stems and leaves. The leaves are smallish around 1-1/14 inches by around 3/4 of an inch. Any help would be appreciated.
Gorgeous plants.
Patti
Thank you Patti. I just wish I was a more organized person. At one time, these plants did have an ID written on an old pot, but then I neglected to transfer it over to the new pot. Now that I'm really getting into Hoya it is nice to know what you have.
Doug
The second one I'm pretty sure is Hoya cumingiana. The first one is really hard to tell as a lot of different hoyas have that shape & even get red or coppery new growth that turns green later. It could be one of the macgillivrayi ones....or not.
Best I can do without flowers.
Beautiful healthy looking plants even without names. I like the way you did them.
Marcy
Marcy, I was thinking macgillivrayi too on the first one - mine looks exactly like that, and I have never had flowers yet......
The Hoya cummingiana is beautiful!! I have a much smaller one, and hope it someday looks as awesome as yours Doug.
Sara
The first one could also be hoya cembra.
Thanks very much for the help Sara, Marcy and Kim. The funny thing about both of these Hoyas is that for over two years these plants just sat there and virtually did nothing. This was especially true of the cummingiana. It might have grown three inches a year if that, and then this spring something happened and the growth just exploded on both. The only thing that I can attribute the huge growth spurt to is the MSU fertilizer that I started using with every watering after learning about it on this forum!
This message was edited May 10, 2007 12:04 PM
The first one looks like it has thin leaves and could be paziae or cv. Iris Marie.
The leaves are definitely very thin. Not that I've had that much experience with Hoya or seen more than maybe 20 different species in person, but it has the thinnest leaves I have ever seen on one.
The Hoya cumingiana is one of my favorite plant. I loss mine over the winter. Do you have a close up picture of the first hoya Doug?
Patti
Patti, I will try to take a couple of close up pictures tonight and post them tomorrow.
Doug
If you dont' mind me asking, what is MSU fertilizer? That's a new one to me.
Thanks, Kim
Kim,
It is supposed to be the ultimate fertilizer developed by Michigan State University. I think it is used mainly for orchids or developed for orchids; I'm not sure to tell you the truth. It is available in two different formulations depending on if you want to use it with rainwater or tapwater. I bought mine here:http://www.growinhydro.com/21332.html
Doug -
The hoya in the first photo - if you didn't tie it to the trellis, would it wind around it or does it grow in a more 'branching' style? Do you grow them in that location of the photo? If so...both of them, with more indirect bright light (and a bit of sun early a.m. or late p.m. might bloom quickly...they are certainly old enough to!!!
Kim - MSU Fertilizer was developed by MSU for artificial soils...there was a lot of traffice about it about 5-6 months ago. Go to www.raysfirstlight.com for more information. I LOVE it.
A WORD OF CAUTION: I was watering with 1/4 strength MSU every watering thinking that the low ratio of fert. would be OK. NOT. I developed a salt buildup in the plants which I am currently dealing with. Be sure to flush your hoyas well with plain water every 3 or 4 times you water with the fert.
Carol,
I would have to say it grows more in a branching style and does not voluntarily wind around the trellis. These Hoyas were grown right where they sit. It is a South window, but that is kind of misleading, because in VT our South could be more like your East. Also, I lose more direct sun in the summer, because of trees leafing out both on the south and west sides of the house. Another thing outside of Seattle WA, we are the cloudiest area in the country. It is very rare to string together three sunny days in a row. I get good vegatative growth in these windows, but the only Hoya that flowers regularly is the Shooting Star. I've always thought that the reason I get almost no flowers is too little sun. My carnosa never flowered for four years until I put it on my porch where it got more sun. In the fall, I'm going to start experimenting with these new T5 high output flourescent grow lamps in a grow-room that I am developing. Maybe that way I can get these darn things to flower.
Thanks for the information on flushing the fertilizer salts; I'm going to begin doing that immediately.
Doug
Both H. cembra and H. cv. Iris Marie (aka H. paziae) fit the description of your plant's growth...and with more light...you could get abundant VERY fragrant flowers!!! My cv. Iris Marie has hanging branches about 5' long covered with flowers...and she gets direct sun in the morning. H. cembra also gets direct sun in the morning. In the GH which has high light, H. cembra can begin blooming with only a couple of inches of new growth. If there is any way to do it...increase the light. Yours are beautifully grown!!!
This is a close up of new growth on the plant.
This is another close up, but I don't know how helpful it will be. I did find a picture of H. cembra, and H. cv. Iris Marie and it does look an awful lot like those two. So I think I will go with that ID for now until and if it will flower.
Will do a side by side comparison today...and let you know. I am going to guess with the reddish leaves it is going to be cv. Iris Marie.