I got some good shots of this tree at Epcot. I want to add them to Plant Piles, but, I am not sure of the botanical name. I am guessing it is Cassia?
Tree ID
Hetty,
That is breathtaking!!!! Your plumeria are prettier than the one's I saw in Hawaii.
Jeri
Try Copperpod Tree (Peltophorum pterocarpum). Sometimes called Yellow Poinciana.
I think OldNed is right, the flowers look like Cassia bicapsularis so that's what I thought at first, but the leaves aren't quite right. Peltophorum has leaves that look like yours and the flowers look right too.
The flowers definately resemble some sort of Poinciana to me too
Pride of Barbados, Red Bird of Paradise, Dwarf Poinciana, Peacock Flower, flamboyan-de-jardin
Caesalpinia pulcherrima
I don't know about the leaves though..they are interesting
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/16420/
rj
Here's a cassia that seems to match the flowers and the leaves
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/92435/
Sunshine Tree, Scrambled Egg Tree, Glossy Shower
Senna surattensis
Toptropicals.com has good tree identification..that's where I first went to search on Cassias
http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Cassia_surattensis.htm
This message was edited May 8, 2007 6:52 PM
All the plants with the name Poinciana have tiny almost pointed leaves, these are larger and more round. Makes me think cassia (senna) they always have round leaflets.
See http://davesgarden.com/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=cassia&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search
and compared to http://davesgarden.com/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=poinciana&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search
I agree Dale-not a Copperpod. Cassia or Senna both look better.
Whatever it is, it is not widely grown. I have seen many flowering trees, many I don't the names, but, I usually see more than one during a tree's flowering season. I have never seen this tree anywhere else. The way the flowers open, in a round or ball shaped cluster should be a help in getting an ID.
I sent my photos to TopTropicals, they may be able to get me a name.
So you don't think it's a
Sunshine Tree, Scrambled Egg Tree, Glossy Shower
Senna surattensis
?
The leaves looked like they matched better.
rjuddharrison,
I am not certain, but, it seems like the shape of the flower clusters don't match. The clusters seem larger on the tree in my photo. The tree in my photo has some very large and unusual shape to the clusters, they almost seem like spheres. To me almost all the individual senna flowers look the same, it is the shape of the clusters that I am going by.
I did a image search and none of the trees of S. surattensis seemed to have the same character. Senna surattensis grows with long, thin branches, 'my' senna has dense heavy woody branches.
Hard to please, aren't I?
I know you've got all the tropical experts here, but you might want to try throwing this over on the ID forum too since nobody here seems to have nailed it yet--DNP got that cool vine ID'd over there before anyone here figured it out so it's worth a shot (you might reference the things that have already been considered and rejected to save people time, otherwise a lot of initial guesses there will probably be the same as they were here)
Naaa....it's just hard to tell from pictures...but it's driving me crazy because we use to have those trees in Liberia W. Africa.
I did bring some seeds from various trees back...but they had sat for 30 years, and then I decided to see if any would grow. Bingo...one did..and I have no idea what it is, except it has those mimosa type leaves only much bigger. Of course I can't remember now which tree it's from, but am always on the look out.
Acacia?
Hetty, isn't that pic you posted in Hawaii? It sure doesnt look like Naples.
LOL, Brad! You beat me too it! I was going to ask if that was Florida or Hawaii too;-) It looks more like Hawaii.
Dale that is Gorgeous!!!!! I want, I must have! Where can I get one????
Oh that is too bad! It is soooooo beautiful! My royal just blessed us with another branch of flowers....thought it was done for the nonce, but lo and behold! My plan is to let the pods dry on the tree and then harvest them to share with my daughter. If I remember correctly, I pour boiling water on them and let them sit overnight in the water, then plant...do you know if this is correct. (Want some?)
We are too cold for Royal Poinciana in the winter and they suffer. If you go about 80 miles south, down the coast they grow great. People plant them around here, but, they rarely bloom & bloom poorly when they do flower. Peltophorum do great here and put on a very cheerful show. I saw a yellow Royal Poinciana in Hawaii (on Oahu, in a neighbhood park) they are rare also.
My yellow is a dwarf, but beautiful. At least I think it is a dwarf. They are both so small - Royal only about 3 feet, yellow slightly smaller, that it's really hard to say for sure. Maybe I have a rare yellow royal! Wouldn't that be cool beans!
Shari,
What you have is probably Caesalpinia http://davesgarden.com/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=caesalpinia&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search
Royal Poinciana is a very large tree http://davesgarden.com/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=royal+poinciana&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search
I am very proud of my entries for 'Smather's Gold' http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/138685/index.html
I think that my yellow is a Caelsalpinia. But I know that my Royal is a Royal. I grew it from seed started about 7 months ago. I got the seeds from a 30 ft tree about two blocks from me. I cant believe the flowers that I got in just these few months!
That is incredible that you got a flower on the Royal at 3' (and in 7 months!!) It takes years here, under the best conditions. And the never bloom in a pot. I checked the map and you are just shy of 10 degrees north, here in Tampa I am just short of 28 degrees. That would explain why they do so well.
I got a positive ID on the tree-Cassia leptophylla, I just didn't look at enough photos in plant piles. Spent too much time in Senna and not enough in Cassia.
Well you just better say a big Howdy to Cassia from all of us! She sure is beautiful! I have always wanted to get to Epcot, but haven't made it yet.....will someday though, of that I am sure.
I know what you mean about the Royal....knocked my socks off when the first branch of blooms started, and then we got 5 more! I am soooo in love with that tree!
