Tree ID

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

I got some good shots of this tree at Epcot. I want to add them to Plant Piles, but, I am not sure of the botanical name. I am guessing it is Cassia?

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Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

Must be fairly cold tolerant, to be growing in Orlando.

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Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

I wish more folks would plant flowering trees here in FL.

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I agree..... but I'm doing my share.... Plumeria anyone??? LOL

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Central, LA(Zone 8b)

Hetty,

That is breathtaking!!!! Your plumeria are prettier than the one's I saw in Hawaii.

Jeri

Merritt Island, FL(Zone 10a)

Try Copperpod Tree (Peltophorum pterocarpum). Sometimes called Yellow Poinciana.

Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

I think OldNed is right, the flowers look like Cassia bicapsularis so that's what I thought at first, but the leaves aren't quite right. Peltophorum has leaves that look like yours and the flowers look right too.

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

Ned, nope that is not it. See below, this is Peltophorum pterocarpum>

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)


The flowers definately resemble some sort of Poinciana to me too
Pride of Barbados, Red Bird of Paradise, Dwarf Poinciana, Peacock Flower, flamboyan-de-jardin
Caesalpinia pulcherrima
I don't know about the leaves though..they are interesting

http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/16420/

rj

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Here's a cassia that seems to match the flowers and the leaves
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/92435/
Sunshine Tree, Scrambled Egg Tree, Glossy Shower
Senna surattensis


Toptropicals.com has good tree identification..that's where I first went to search on Cassias
http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Cassia_surattensis.htm


This message was edited May 8, 2007 6:52 PM

Merritt Island, FL(Zone 10a)

I agree Dale-not a Copperpod. Cassia or Senna both look better.

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

Whatever it is, it is not widely grown. I have seen many flowering trees, many I don't the names, but, I usually see more than one during a tree's flowering season. I have never seen this tree anywhere else. The way the flowers open, in a round or ball shaped cluster should be a help in getting an ID.

I sent my photos to TopTropicals, they may be able to get me a name.

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Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

So you don't think it's a
Sunshine Tree, Scrambled Egg Tree, Glossy Shower
Senna surattensis
?

The leaves looked like they matched better.

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

rjuddharrison,

I am not certain, but, it seems like the shape of the flower clusters don't match. The clusters seem larger on the tree in my photo. The tree in my photo has some very large and unusual shape to the clusters, they almost seem like spheres. To me almost all the individual senna flowers look the same, it is the shape of the clusters that I am going by.

I did a image search and none of the trees of S. surattensis seemed to have the same character. Senna surattensis grows with long, thin branches, 'my' senna has dense heavy woody branches.

Hard to please, aren't I?

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

I agree dale - its not a Poinciana. I have both a Royal (red); this pic was taken before it was fully in flower, but I have a close up of the flower to follow:

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Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Well, that didn't work so well - somehow when I change the size of the pics I lose what I was shooting at! Aarrgh! Anyway, lets see if the close up worked.....then I will try to post my dwarf Yellow.

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Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Here's a pic of the dwarf: Ignore the desert rose next to it.

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Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

And in this pic you can see that the flowers are MUCH smaller than on your mystery tree....the globular formation is the same though - and my two are very woody - so maybe it is just some cultivar or close relation.

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Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

I know you've got all the tropical experts here, but you might want to try throwing this over on the ID forum too since nobody here seems to have nailed it yet--DNP got that cool vine ID'd over there before anyone here figured it out so it's worth a shot (you might reference the things that have already been considered and rejected to save people time, otherwise a lot of initial guesses there will probably be the same as they were here)

Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Naaa....it's just hard to tell from pictures...but it's driving me crazy because we use to have those trees in Liberia W. Africa.
I did bring some seeds from various trees back...but they had sat for 30 years, and then I decided to see if any would grow. Bingo...one did..and I have no idea what it is, except it has those mimosa type leaves only much bigger. Of course I can't remember now which tree it's from, but am always on the look out.

Bucyrus, OH(Zone 6a)

Acacia?

Geneva, FL(Zone 9b)

Hetty, isn't that pic you posted in Hawaii? It sure doesnt look like Naples.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

LOL, Brad! You beat me too it! I was going to ask if that was Florida or Hawaii too;-) It looks more like Hawaii.

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

Here is an unusual Poinciana -'Smather's Gold'

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Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Dale that is Gorgeous!!!!! I want, I must have! Where can I get one????

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

Peltophorum, from last summer.

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Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

Shari, it is sterile and it has to be grafted. There is a place down in Miami that sells them and they are expensive.

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Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Oh that is too bad! It is soooooo beautiful! My royal just blessed us with another branch of flowers....thought it was done for the nonce, but lo and behold! My plan is to let the pods dry on the tree and then harvest them to share with my daughter. If I remember correctly, I pour boiling water on them and let them sit overnight in the water, then plant...do you know if this is correct. (Want some?)

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

We are too cold for Royal Poinciana in the winter and they suffer. If you go about 80 miles south, down the coast they grow great. People plant them around here, but, they rarely bloom & bloom poorly when they do flower. Peltophorum do great here and put on a very cheerful show. I saw a yellow Royal Poinciana in Hawaii (on Oahu, in a neighbhood park) they are rare also.

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Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

My yellow is a dwarf, but beautiful. At least I think it is a dwarf. They are both so small - Royal only about 3 feet, yellow slightly smaller, that it's really hard to say for sure. Maybe I have a rare yellow royal! Wouldn't that be cool beans!

Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

I think that my yellow is a Caelsalpinia. But I know that my Royal is a Royal. I grew it from seed started about 7 months ago. I got the seeds from a 30 ft tree about two blocks from me. I cant believe the flowers that I got in just these few months!

Tampa, FL(Zone 10a)

That is incredible that you got a flower on the Royal at 3' (and in 7 months!!) It takes years here, under the best conditions. And the never bloom in a pot. I checked the map and you are just shy of 10 degrees north, here in Tampa I am just short of 28 degrees. That would explain why they do so well.

I got a positive ID on the tree-Cassia leptophylla, I just didn't look at enough photos in plant piles. Spent too much time in Senna and not enough in Cassia.

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Rio Rico, AZ(Zone 8a)

Well you just better say a big Howdy to Cassia from all of us! She sure is beautiful! I have always wanted to get to Epcot, but haven't made it yet.....will someday though, of that I am sure.

I know what you mean about the Royal....knocked my socks off when the first branch of blooms started, and then we got 5 more! I am soooo in love with that tree!

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