Need Id for these Philodendron.

I lost the tags to these philodendrons, and I am hoping someone knows the name of them. Here is the first.
TIA. Patti

Second.

whatever they are, I like them.

Thank you. pheitmeyer.

the 2nd one looks like my king of spades philo. ...do the back of the leaves have red veins?

This message was edited Apr 26, 2007 7:11 AM

Patti,
The first one looks like P. Erubescence (blushing philo )
The other, have no idea, as there are quite a few like that.
Armando.

Ctbig the entire back of the leaf is red.

Thanks Armando.
Patti