wild grape vines

I was told to come here and ask HOW DO YOU GET RID OF THEM I'v been chopping and digging for a very long time and I want to put a flower bed there There every where I'v got the ones above ground but the roots are still there I need a simpler way to get rid of them.
Gloria

Do you by chance know what kind of a grape vine you have? If I linked you to a few photos do you think you could pick it out from memory?

I'm not sure thay are a wild grape vine there all over the neaborhood where there was woods thay have large leaves and little tiny sour dark purple grapes my next door na. tryed to tame them thay stayed the same just grew bigger there awful thay choke out everything thay come in contact with
Gloria

How about this-
http://www.lesinsectesduquebec.com/plantes/vitis_riparia-1.JPG

glevely -- i've got TONS of them... i know i've talked about them in another thread -- but don't know where it is.

I constantly cut the branch down at the root base... where they are all up in trees, i cut those too
(I have a nice "kindling" from the branches in a pile for burning)

now -- i know this is terrible - and very UNorganic gardening of me.... but i wanted it DEAD, so my DH poured gas on it.... hasn't grown back. (the root ball was about 6" around)

I was told there is Ortho BushB-Gon (which i did find at Menards) that should take care of it too.

Now, i have to admit, I didnt try to eliminate ALL the grape, as it does feed birds and squirrels.... but the stuff that was in my way, i'm chopping back and doing my best to kill.

HTH

Terese

just found a nifty site... weedalert.com

http://www.weedalert.com/weed_pages/wa_wild_grape.htm

it just says to use an herbicide

Gas is not the answer.

If she does have Vitis riparia, and I suspect she does based on her description, it's pretty easy to kill off. Using concentrates isn't the answer because it kills the plant too quick before the chemical gets a chance to work its way through the entire root system. This is a native plant but it's an opportunist and too much of a good thing is too much so I've wasted them here. I pull the vine off its host and gather up as much as I can from the ground and spread it out on a cheap tarp. I wait until the weather warms up when there's going to be a stretch of air temps above 60F for at least a week. I spray the plant with regular strength RoundUp. Try to get a day when it isn't too windy and try to spray in late morning. Let the chemical dry for about an hour and remove the tarp. It's as easy as that. Wait about 10 days. Is your little monster starting to look a little peeked? Good, let it die off and then start digging up the roots. Is your little monster looking too happy for your liking? Spray it again with RoundUp. I don't recall ever having to hit one of these up a third time to make it go to plant heaven.

Seriously, you want to kill this plant slooooooooooooowly. You want the happy juice to work its way through the entire plant so that it doesn't come back to haunt you ten fold.

Equilibrium that looks like the grapes but the leaves are realy prity even in to the fall

Terese I have a spot that is about 40x 60 of roots that won't die if I poured gas on them I'd burn the whole plase down be fun to watch but I think I'd be in trouble not anything unusual though LOL

Gloria

E,

yes, i know it's not the answer, and i wasn't pleased the way he did it... just the fact of it going in the soil.

I am "managing" the grape so far... i just start snipping away in the spring.

but -- thanks for your tip on getting rid of it.

T.

If i'v already cut the vines to the ground and beyond could I still put round up or something on the roots to kill them?
G.

Ummm, don't burn them. They're somewhat resistant to fire. All you'd do would be to destroy the vegetation above ground leaving the root system in place to come back a gazillion fold. I don't think you would be too happy with what would happen if you burned them. Your post-fire property might look as if you were infested with kudzu.

If you already cut them down don't worry, they'll provide you with more than ample new growth to spray. Just give them a month or two to get going and then nail them. Patience isn't one of my virtues either so don't feel bad.

No patience is not real long here .I'v been fighting with them for near 20 years just when I think Iwon thay come up some where else . If you can think of any thing else let me know I'm open to about any thing short of mass distruction.

G.

Ok, please wait it out until you have sufficient vegetation to spray with the RoundUp. If you've been doing this for 20 years, I have no doubt you have a substantial root system festering under the ground waiting to grab you by the ankles to suck you under.

By the way, Vitis riparia has really pretty leaves in the fall and its berries provide sustenance to many species of wildlife.

Here are some more photos because I grabbed the first one that popped up in a search and it was sort of scraggly looking. Mine are lush and full-
http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/images/veg/Oak_Forest_2/Vitis_riparia-leaves_VK.php?highres=true
http://herbarium.biology.colostate.edu/vitis_riparia2.htm
http://www.holoweb.com/nature/plants/images/Vitis_Riparia_1.jpg
http://www.cedarcreek.umn.edu/plants/newslides/SHgrape2.jpg

And look, here it is blanketing something-
http://www.inhs.uiuc.edu/cwe/illinois_plants/ThePlants/U-ZGenera/VitRip/VitRip3.jpg

that looks like it and I would be willing to bet it ate a tree or a house or any thing else that diden't move fast enough the swalowing me up or grabing me and sucking me into the ground I have night meares like that LOL but I'll try to be carefull thanks
G.

Say glevely, watch your outer air temps when applying RoundUp. Many plants go dormant when temps are too low and many plants shut down to conserve resources when temps are too high. What this means to you is that if you don't apply the happy juice at a time when you are going to get a stretch of days above 60F but below 84F, your chemicals will be wasted on a plant that is going to chant "nanner nanner nanner, you can't get me" at you.

You want real nightmares, plant English Ivy.

Eq did that Its gone don't like Ivey . I don't think I 'll be spraying anything for a while theres 5inches of snow out there and its cold but I will as soon as I can THAY WON"T GET ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
G.

That's the spirit!

Vine-X works as directed. For really stubborn vines, when the plant is actively growing, cut the vine near the base and immediately apply Vine-X to the freshly cut stub. I've never had one come back from that treatment, provided all the vines were treated at the same time. This works well on honeysuckle growing through a chain link fence.

Ohhhh ahhhhh! Vine-X is good stuff too. I strip bark to expose the cambium layer and apply. I love the neat little applicator bottle too.

One problem with the Vine-X is that I've never seen it available locally, only mail order. Any chains carrying it out your way that might be by me?

I'm willing to try it if I knew where to get it BUT what willit do to my soil???
Gloria

Last year, Lowes, and Home Depot both carried it. Don't know about this year.

Vine-X will not get into the soil. It is applied directly to the plant stem or trunk, not the leaves or soil. If you dig out the roots of the plant after it is dead there is no residual whatsoever. In some places I replanted immediately in the same location. www.vine-x.com

Ohhhhhh glevely! Lowes and Home Depot has it! I'd say go for the Vine X!

I'm on my way as soon as I have a day off work I think next tuesday.
Gloria

If it's out of your way I'd give them a call first. It was last year that I saw it. I havn't looked this year.

I'd go if it was 50 miles I'm sure thay have some thing I REALY NEED any ways

Gloria