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Chattanooga, TN(Zone 7a)

I have these seed pods on two varieties of my over-wintering Plumerias - what should I do with them? Thanks - Jimmy

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Chattanooga, TN(Zone 7a)

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The other variety

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These will probably mature in the next month or so. Either keep an eye on them, or cover them with something like a mesh bag, so that when they open the seeds don't blow away.
It's best to let them mature on the plant.

This message was edited Mar 7, 2007 1:07 PM

New Port Richey, FL(Zone 9b)

Jimmy ,
I'd leave them right on the plants.When the plants go back outside the pods will rippen ontheir own.Probably in your location it will be mid to late summer but maybe sooner.Just keep an eye on them .When they begin to soften just a bit to the sqeeze.Then it's time to slide a nylon socking onto it and twist tie the sockling so as not to lose any seeds upon the pod popping open and the wind carring away the seeds.Let them dry a day or two and plant them.You'll have lots of seedlings.That's when the fun starts,as to where to grow that many.(lol)
I'm sure more will be chimming in that's just what I'd do. Good luck
Don

New Port Richey, FL(Zone 9b)

Dutchlady I didn't mean to step on your reply! I'm such a slow typist you posted before I knew you'd already answed Jimmy. Sorry
Don

Don - no need to apologize. I think the information from both posts will help Jimmy make his decision.

Chattanooga, TN(Zone 7a)

Thank you both - from little sticks bought at the SE Flower show 3 years ago to 6 foot beauties and so easy, too. Can't wait to try the seeds.....

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Jimmy, you already got some excellent answers about the pods. I have one too that has been outside all year. I had two, but one didn't like all the rain and cold we had. I wrote an article on growing plumerias from seeds if you are interested. It should appear soon here: http://davesgarden.com/articles/ What a beautiful picture you posted!

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Chattanooga, TN(Zone 7a)

Thanks, Clare - I enjoy the gawkers I get here in TN havng these giant Plummies out blooming on my front porch in season....

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

I would definitely gawk if I walked by and saw those flowers :-) Gorgeous!

New Port Richey, FL(Zone 9b)

Jimmy are the seed pods from your pictured plumeria?If yes ,I'm wondering if you'd be interested in a seed trade.I'll have seeds from Rose Red ,Slaughter Pink ,and Celadine. If your interested let me know.
Don

Chattanooga, TN(Zone 7a)

Yes, they are - I'd love to do a trade with ya. You can email me at jim@brennandyer.com and let's talk - Jimmy

Outstanding blooms Jimmy. And great shots. Thanks for posting them.

Davie, FL(Zone 10b)

Quoting:
Thanks, Clare - I enjoy the gawkers I get here in TN havng these giant Plummies out blooming on my front porch in season....

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Nice pic jim..
I couldn't help noticeing but in your pic is that a katydid on the bottom flower??
I see chew marks on the top leaf and what appears to be a green katydid on the flower..
If that looks like a grasshopper kill it or it will eat your plant in a few days..
:)
Example:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/101/290382252_f3863a3b92_o.jpg

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hey, guys, remember that plumeria seeds may not come true to the parents. By the way, I rarely identify a cultivar by a picture these days because it is difficult to do with accuracy, but Jim's picture looks like a Guillot's Sunset to me: http://www.plumeria101.com/master_gallery/guillots_sunset.html

New Port Richey, FL(Zone 9b)

Ah! That's the fun of a mixed marriage,ya never ever know how the kids will end up looking (Beauty Queen or Red haired freckled step child with bad breath) But I'm sure hoping for a Cheerleader with citrus scented sparkling breath.(lol)

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

LOL, Don. That's so true. Look at Christie Brinkley and Billy Joel...their poor daughter got Billy Joel's looks!

Knoxville, TN(Zone 7a)

Beautiful plumeria, Jimmy! Great to see another Tennessean that loves plummies.

I have to ask - - - did you pollinate your plumeria or did Mother Nature produce those seed pods on her own?

Chattanooga, TN(Zone 7a)

All Mother Nature....

Davie, FL(Zone 10b)

...soo much for the katydid question!
;=~

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Robert, I don't see it in the picture, but you sure are right about them. I see them sometimes in the summer, and as much as I hate to kill any living thing, those guys have to go because they eat way too much!

Davie, FL(Zone 10b)

Clare see my quote?
In that pic under that quote he posted this pic..
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=3257949
Look at the bottom flower you can't miss it then look at the top leaves..
:)
Better yet i took his pic and drew arrows for ya!
I should have made the arrows brighter but there are 3 of them with the 3rd one at the very top..
sorry..

This message was edited Mar 9, 2007 3:12 AM

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Oh, I see now, Robert. Thanks for pointing that out. I know exactly what that is. It is a leaf hopper. I have them all over my garden, and they are suckers rather than eaters. They don't seem to do any noticable damage that I can see. I usually don't bother them. No need to apologize. You have a very good eye!

Plumiedelphia, PA(Zone 7a)

Hey Robert,
I saw it.
I think its too smallt to be a Katydid.
It looks by the top profile to be a 'Buffalo Winged Leaf Hopper'.
Checkout the link associated with this pic.
oops ill try again

This message was edited Mar 9, 2007 3:24 PM

Plumiedelphia, PA(Zone 7a)

http://www.whatsthatbug.com/aphids.html

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

That's the right guy, Michael. It is a Acanalonia conica: http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=2187035 We have them here too.

Here's another link: http://bugguide.net/node/view/15668/bgpage

This message was edited Mar 9, 2007 12:56 PM

Davie, FL(Zone 10b)

..so what's eating the leaves because those are chew marks..
Katydid's eat from the outside of the leaf and we have katydids this size too so hard to tell from his pic..
I just killed one that looks exactly like that bug in that pic..
The leaf hoppers here jump off the leaves as soon as i get near them..this little guy is still on the plant even when he has his hand on the plant.
Oh well thought i point it out was bored and i always look for those darn critters..
I will hope i am wrong for his plant sake :)

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Yes, you are right. Something is eating a couple of those leaves where your arrows are pointing. I don't think it is the leaf hopper shown in the pic though, but I could be wrong. I think you are right that the damage is probably caused by a Katydid. By the way, I finally caught and killed that tiny Katydid that was in my greenhouse. It was making small little holes in the flowers that he ate. I know you'll be able to spot the bite marks in my picture, Robert. It is good that you keep an eye out because a few of these guys can keep you from enjoying the flowers.

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

This was the little devil...may he rest in peace:-)

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Davie, FL(Zone 10b)

My lizards would munch over him in seconds..
At least 3 of them would be tugging at his little legs hehe..
Congrats on getting him clare..

This message was edited Mar 10, 2007 3:00 PM

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Thanks, Robert. I really do need more lizards in my garden. Will have to work on that;-)

Cave Creek, AZ

Wow, what a beautiful plumeria you have!!!
Mickey

Plumiedelphia, PA(Zone 7a)

Robert it could well be Katydid or didnt damage lol
It clearly looks to be the chew marks of one or a hopper
The bug may also be a katydid
Im sure you have bugs ive never seen
Up here the Katydids are big.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/Malestrom22/DSCF0246.jpg
And they bite too!
We have a lot of leaf hoppers as well
They only suck juices

(Tammie) Odessa, TX(Zone 7b)

My cat keeps my lizards rather tailess! I occasionally see one but rarely with a full tail. I found one in my potting shed the other day.. he was very welcome to stay.

Your Tennessee blooms are beautiful. I am sure they turn heads.. they sure would turn mine.

Tammie

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