List of veggies and herbs that can grow in same solution?

Hello all, Been searching the web for a long time but can't find any real answers. I'm really hoping you can help me as my family, extended family and way too many of my friends are waiting to laugh at me, again. (Years ago, for 3 years straight I planted a garden. I planned it, dug it, irrigated it, enriched it, had it blessed... and diligiently watered, fed, and weeded it. Nothing ever grew, nothing. In the third year, when I was diligently weeding and pulled up a weed with a tiny potato growing in the roots I just walked away realizing I was just too stupid to live.

I spent $250 dollars three years ago on a 6-plant plastic drip system at a local hydroponic store. Lights, action, death. I don't know what I did wrong, maybe I didn't recognize the changing growth stage and adjust the nutient solution properly but the ...I can't remember what they were but they just all of a sudden killed over. ?

I don't know why raising organic food is so important to me but its my dream, my nightmare, and possibly my life's ambition. So I am trying to plan a hydroponic garden. I was able to grow romaine lettuce in floating garden last fall with SUCCESS!!! I need to try growing a variety of plants in the floating garden to first learn about plant growth while venturing out slowly into other types of systems.

But, I read that one can "group" similiar plants together that require the same nutrient solution/ PH levels. ?.....? That would be helpful.

Here is a list of the Organic plants I am hoping to grow this spring. If any of you could offer advise on which ones I could grow in the same nutient solution I would be very appreciative.

Tai Soi (Asian Greens)
Kale
Jericho Romaine
Borage
Sweet Basil
Thyme
Rosemary
Chives
tomatoes
carrots
Crookneck Summer Squash
Zucchini
Walla Walla onions
Green peppers
Orange peppers
red peppers
And I would love to grow watermellons that are shaped like Squash like Epcot has on its website.

And, I know I am pushing it but the regular forums don't discuss planting plans with hydroponic methods so here goes:
How many of these plants does a family of 2 need to grow as a food source? It would be so great if I didn't need to buy organic peppers at $4.75 per lb. this year. (I can't afford it.) In-soil advisers speak in terms of the number of 10-feet rows but hydroponic websites talk in 100 pound-yields?

Any information any of you would care to share would so helpful and, again, appreciative.
Alice

That's it, everyone just jump in!

Same nutient solution container:

Kale, lettuce(es), Basil, spinach, Mint, Dill, Cilantro, Parsley, Chives, any leafcrop.
And..
Tomatoes, Cucumbers, Peppers,...? (means you can add to this list if you have grown another type plant in same solution container).
And..
Carrots, radishes, beets, lecks,...?

I am currently growing these in the same hydroponic garden, using the same nutrient solution:
lettuce
kale
cilantro
strawberries
brussel sprouts
They are all growing well, and I am starting another planting of peas, green beans and cucumbers.

Mary

Sorry this is a little off topic. Why regular kale? Flowering kale is tender with a better flavor. It is prettier too.

with hydroponics there are a few things ..
PH, EC, PPM ... EC and PPM are related ( strength of the nutrients in parts per million.)
there are charts to convert beteween the 2 , or if you get a EC/ppm Pen you can read it directy.
sharing ppm and Ec meter readings with others can get fouled up. there is a conversion factor involved.
one is .5 and the other is .7 .. so if i say im running 1500ppm and you try it and your pens conversion is
different then mine your nutrients is going to be off some.

the pen i have is settable and i use .7 for my conversion.


PH .. acid or base .. there is a range for the ph of the nutrient . if its to high or to low you get nutrient lock out.

this is slightly different then soil ph ranges. there are charts on the net for this range.
5.5 to 6.5 is basicly the range .. I like to keep mine around 6.0 to 6.5




Temp ... water/nutrient temp is very important .. over 80F and you cook the rooots .. and other problems evolve
with high water temps . root rot is the big one ..

Next is the plant itself .. what does the plant like to eat ... N P K ... during flowering and/or fruiting this will change.
so you wont have the same NPK mix for leafys as you would for fruits. This all depends on the plant .. there
might be some leafy vegies that like the same ratio of food as fruits or visa versa .. best to read about the plant.

Like hot peppers .. 2 ways to make them hotter .. starve them of water . ( kinda hard to do in hydroponics )
or jack the level of K up . (potassium)


Light cycles .. does the plant need a certain cycle of light to promote flowering/fruiting ..
Tomatoes love long light cycles and lots of ligh .. 16 to 18 hours on ...


now here is a chart for a bunch of things .. these are a guid to go by.
I start off with like 500ppm for seedlings and slowly work my way up .. the peppers i grew during fruiting was
running close to 3000ppm , but was a custom mix of a 3 part food .. micro, grow , bloom formulas. General Hydroponics.


whoops forgot to mention Cf .. that fits in with the PPM and EC .. ( ppm , Cf , Ec are all ways to measure the nutrient strength)

values of various FRUITS Fruit pH category cF PPM pH / catagory / cF / PPM

Banana 5.5-6.5 M 18-22 1260-1540
Black Currant 6.0 L 14-18 980-1260
Blueberry 4.0-5.0 M 18-20 1260-1400
Melon 5.5-6.0 H 20-25 1400-1750
Passionfruit 6.5 M 16-24 840-1680
Paw-Paw 6.5 H 20-24 1400-1680
Pineapple 5.5-6.0 H 20-24 1400-1680
Red Currant 6.0 M 14-18 980-1260
Rhubarb 5.0-6.0 M 16-20 840-1400
Strawberries 6.0 M 18-22 1260-1540
Watermelon 5.8 M 15-24 1260-1680
L=Low M=Medium H=High


values of various Vegetables Vegetables Ph category cF PPM
pH/catagory/cF/PPM
Artichoke 6.5-7.5 L 8-18 560-1260
Asparagus 6.0-6.8 L 14-18 980-1260
Bean (Common) 6.0 M 20-40 1400-2800
Beetroot 6.0-6.5 H 8-50 1260-3500
Broad Bean 6.0-6.5 M 18-22 1260-1540
Broccoli 6.0-6.8 H 28-35 1960-2450
Brussels Sprout 6.5 H 25-30 1750-2100
Cabbage 6.5-7.0 H 25-30 1750-2100
Capsicum 6.0-6.5 M 18-22 1260-1540
Carrots 6.3 M 16-20 1120-1400
Cauliflower 6.5-7.0 M 5-20 1050-1400
Celery 6.5 M 18-24 1260-1680
Cucumber 5.5 M 17-25 1190-1750
Eggplant 6.0 H 25-35 1750-2450
Endive 5.5 M 20-24 1400-1680
Fodder 6.0 M 18-20 1260-1400
Garlic 6.0 L 14-18 980-1260
Leek 6.5-7.0 L 14-18 980-1260
Lettuce 6.0-7.0 L 8-12 560-840
Marrow 6.0 M 18-24 1260-1680
Okra 6.5 H 20-24 1400-1680
Onions 6.0-6.7 L 14-18 980-1260
Pak-choi 7.0 M 15-20 1050-1400
Parsnip 6.0 L 14-18 980-1260
Pea 6.0-7.0 L 8-18 980-1260
Pepino 6.0-6.5 H 20-50 1400-3500
Potatoes 5.0-6.0 H 20-25 1400-1750
Pumpkin 5.5-7.5 M 18-24 1260-1680
Radish 6.0-7.0 M 16-22 840-1540
Spinach 6.0-7.0 M 18-23 1260-1610
Silverbeet 6.0-7.0 M 18-23 1260-1610
SweetCorn 6.0 M 16-24 840-1680
SweetPotato 5.5-6.0 H 20-25 1400-1750
Taro 5.0-5.5 H 25-30 1750-2100
Tomatoes 6.0-6.5 H 20-50 1400-3500
Turnip 6.0-6.5 M 18-24 1260-1680
Zucchini 6.0 M 18-24 1260-1680
L=Low M=Medium H=High



values of various Herbs HERBS pH Category cF PPM
pH/catagory/cF/PPM
Basil 5.5-6.5 L 10-16 700-1120
Chicory 5.5-60 H 20-24 1400-1600
Chives 6.0-6.5 M 18-22 1260-1540
Fennel 6.4-6.8 L 10-14 700-980
Lavender 6.4-6.8 L 10-14 700-980
Lemon Balm 5.5-6.5 L 10-16 700-1120
Marjoram 6.0 M 16-20 1120-1400
Mint 5.5-6.0 H 20-24 1400-1680
Mustard Cress 6.0-6.5 M 12-24 840-1680
Parsley 5.5-6.0 L 8-18 560-1260
Rosemary 5.5-6.0 L 10-16 700-1120
Sage 5.5-6.5 L 10-16 700-1120
Thyme 5.5-7.0 L 8-16 560-1120
Watercress 6.5-6.8 L 4-18 280-1260
L=Low M=Medium H=High



values of various Flowers Flowers pH Category cF PPM
pH/catagory/cF/PPM
African Violets 6.0-7.0 L 12-15 840-1050
Anthurium 5.0-6.0 M 16.20 1120-1400
Antirrhinim 6.5 M 16-20 1120-1400
Aphelandra 5.0-6.0 M 18-24 1260-1680
Aster 6.0-6.5 M 18-24 1260-1680
Begonia 6.5 L 14-18 980-1260
Bromeliads 5.0-7.5 L 8-12 560-840
Caladium 6.0-7.5 M 16-20 1120-1400
Canna 6.0 M 18-24 1260-1680
Carnation 6.0 H 20-35 1260-2450
Chrysanthemum 6.0-6.2 H 18-25 1400-1750
Cymbidiums 5.5 L 6-10 420-560
Dahlia 6.0-7.0 M 15-20 1050-1400
Dieffenbachia 5.0 H 18-24 1400-1680
Dracaena 5.0-6.0 H 18-24 1400-1680
Ferns 6.0 M 16-20 1120-1400
Ficus 5.5-6.0 M 16-24 1120-1680
Freesia 6.5 M 10-20 700-1400
Impatiens 5.5-6.5 M 18-20 1260-1400
Gerbera 5.0-6.5 H 20-25 1400-1750
Gladiolus 5.5-6.5 H 20-24 1400-1680
Monstera 5.0-6.0 H 18-24 1400-1680
Palms 6.0-7.5 M 16-20 1120-1400
Roses 5.5-6.0 M 15-25 1050-1750
Stock 6.0-7.0 M 16-20 1120-1400
L=Low M=Medium H=High