Rooting Passion flowers

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

what passion flower does every one think roots the best? Paul

For me...P. boendarii, P. Sunshowers, P. tulae, P.caerulea... It really depends on a number of factors including season, soil, rooting medium, etc.

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

thanks Liz

St. Paul, MN(Zone 4b)

Paul,

I have had good luck rooting everything from Lady Margaret to loefgrenii to citrina. I, too, think it just depends on a lot of factors.

Good luck.

Erick

Delray Beach, FL(Zone 10a)

I have tried so many times to root passionflowers. What method do you use?

Sylvain.

St. Paul, MN(Zone 4b)

Syvain,

I am not an expert by any means, but I've had excellent success rooting many Passiflora cuttings over the years. Here is what I suggest:

Start with moist, good quality seed starter mix in a small pot.
Cut off the tip of an actively growing Passiflora vine, making sure to get at least two leaves.
Dip the cut end in a rooting hormone of some kind (widely available).
Plant it and firm the soil down. Water it well.
Immediately cover the cutting with plastic of some kind. A plastic baggie works well for a single small pot, or use plastic growing trays with plastic domes.
Place it somewhere where it will stay warm and bright (not direct sun, of course).
Keep the soil moist but not water-logged.
Once a day, remove the bag/dome to let in fresh air. That's also a good time to check for mites, remove dead leaves, etc. I also mist the cuttings.
Grin like a cheshire cat when you finally see signs of new growth.

Every Passiflora fan has their opinion of the best way to root cuttings. This is just mine.

Good luck to you.

Erick

P.S. While I've become pretty good at rooting Passiflora cuttings (in my humble opinion), I have had virtually no success whatsoever growing them from seed. We can't be good at everything!

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

i have a lot of luck growing from seeds but have never tryed rooting one

Delray Beach, FL(Zone 10a)

Thank you. I'll try that, some time.

A god friend of mine gave me a rooted passiflora coccinea (the red one) that butterflies and catterpilars don't like on account of an alcaloid it contains. I bought a Byron's Beauty, which got eaten to the ground while we were on a cruise. All that was left is the little trellis that came with the vine when I purchased it. I have had absolutely no success starting them from seeds. I include a picture of Byron's Beauty, which smelled so unbelievably good.

Thank you for the tips.
Sylvain.

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Satsuma, AL(Zone 8b)

WOW! That's beautiful. Eaten to the ground?

Delray Beach, FL(Zone 10a)

Yep, eaten to the ground. They only left the little wood slat trellis. I even thought someone had stolen the vine and left the trellis but that wasn't the case. Never again, will I pay that amount of money for caterpillar food.

Sylvain.

Satsuma, AL(Zone 8b)

Sounds like seeds is the way to go. I have never bought or grown Passiflora; I'll put it on my list. They are incredible.

Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/412695/
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/492976/
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/425157/
Above are a few links of varying methods of rooting many different passiflora's a few of us made in the past. There are as many good ways to clone a passi as there are passi's practically. These contain a bunch of good info. I think everyone will have 1 they believe roots the easiest.
I'll try to answer any questions if I can. I had a horrible year last summer and over winter with pests and lost all but 2 of my passifloras and every brug I worked so hard to root/collect. I used to have atleast a couple dozen passion flowers and it took so long to get to that many, I guess thats how it goes sometimes.
I'm not sure if I wrote up anything about "Rapid Rooter's" in the above threads. They're kinda pricey but well worth it. Just suppliment those in place of the other cubes I used above and they'll root even easier IMO. You can find them at any hydroponics store or do a google on them.
I hope this helps.
JD

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Thanks for the links I will definitely be reading up and learning this year. I have at least 5 passies on order and once they have grown enough want to see if I can lear to root them.

Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

marieortiz
You're quite welcome. Those links contain more info on rooting these guys than you'll find anywhere else imo. Don't be discouraged if your first attempts don't work out, some passie's can be so very challenging. Sometimes I'll get lucky then cocky when I'll get a tray where they all root fast. Then I'll duplicate the entire process and not get 1/2 to root. I think a few keys are the cuttings you pick to try with, humidity(too much or too little) and cleanliness of tools(razor blades mostly). It's crazy how some techniques work for 1 person and when I try doing the exact same thing, I'll fail miserably. Go figure. Good luck and enjoy.

speckledpig
I'm not sure if seeds are your best bet or not. I know with my P.Incarnata, germination times can be as much as a full year from what I've read. I've never waited that long but I've seen it take a few months in my trays. The seed coats on those seeds are rock hard literally. I've soaked them for days to over a week and don't recall any swelling or the like. I've tried sanding on them, nicking with a sharp blade and don't recall any of those tricks making a difference.
Beware if you do get P. Incarnata and turn it loose in your yard! Especially in you zone, that stuff spreads like wildfire once established.
I found P. Incarnata growing wild in a ditch at a cabin my family has owned for ever. It's in the Red River Valley, lake Texoma on the Texas/ Oklahoma border. Nobody can recall ever seeing it growing in the 50 some years we've had that property but there it was. Climbing a fence on the roadside. I had never seen a passion flower before that and wasn't in to gardening much back then but we dug it up and brought it home. That 1 tiny sprig has spread 50+ feet along a chain link fence, it now climbs a telephone pole since reaching it 2 years ago and sends up runners over 20 feet in every direction. It makes the ultimate air freshener when the wind blows through the fence filling the yard with an awesome fragrance everyone comments on. We love it.

Paul. I apologize for hijacking your thread w/o answering your question. I'll answer your question and remove my "marathon post" if you'd like. I have a bad habit of just rambling on and on and I don't know why. I try to answer a question and the next thing I know, I've written a miny novel.

P. Belotti and P. Incarnata roots the easiest out of all the others I've tried The next easiest is P. Caerulea aka Hardy Passion flower(both blue and white colors). All of the others are pretty much in 3rd place and tied at 3rd. The ones that have given me the hardest time were any of the red passiflora's. P Alata, P. Lady Margaret, ruby glow. I've killed every red passi I've ever had despite my best efforts. I've never had any really strong ones to start with but I don't know if that had anything to do with the end results. I look forward to giving them another try.
I apologize once again and will remove all of that, just say the word.
I hope I've helped everyone a little.
Thanks, Jeff

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

LoL its ok Jeff Thanks for the answer dont remove the post its good so are the links Regards Paul

Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

Cool Paul and thanks. You'd be so suprised how seriously upset some people get when I've accidently done this in the past. I found a few more links to other older posts, here is 1 of my newer ones with what I think is the best method to date.
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/505136/
The name is a tad cocky claiming its foolproof. I stand corrected but its pretty darn simple.
Here is a pic of some of my passie's, sadly I lost 99% of them this year. BUT...When I joined Dave's and started collecting passiflora's, I only had that 1 P. Incarnata so maybe I can get them back.
Have a great weekend all,
JD

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Lee's Summit, MO(Zone 6a)

JLD, since you are in Olathe, Ks., it would not be too far for you to drive to Larry's greenhouse in Riverside, Mo. Larry grows Passiflora PLUGS of all types that you can buy for $1.25 each! Last year he grew three different ones - P. lady margaret, caerulea and incense.

You do have to engage in good conversation and then ASK him to show you the plugs - they aren't normally sold, but he will sell them if you are a friend.

I buy two of each he has, every year, and treat them as annuals. They start out as 2" plugs and by summer's end, are huge vines, blooming nicely. Dmail me if you have any questions.

Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

KayJones
THANKS so much for the tip. I'd love to drive out there and make a new friend as a bonus. Do you have any more contact info for Larry? Please let me know ASAP and thanks again. I hope you and yours are doing well, happy healthy and the like;)
JD

TAYLOR, TX(Zone 8a)

Hey Paul, What is your secret on growing passifloras from seed. I'm not having any success here in Texas.

Louanne

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

What do you use for a planting Meduim ? how deep and do you use bottom heat and do you keep the pots coverd?

TAYLOR, TX(Zone 8a)

I used the soil-less mixture for growing seeds. Barely covered the seed and yes I do use bottom heat and keep them covered. Am also using Park Seeds 'Biodome', with no success yet as well. What am I doing wrong or does it just take a long time for them to germinate?

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

the onely thing i do diff is that i use straight Vermiculite. how long have the seeds been in?

TAYLOR, TX(Zone 8a)

Planted in the biodome on Jan 15th and in the soil-less mixture on 1/25.

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

one other thing i do is soak my seeds over night in orange juice one cup and i add 2 drops of Mega Grow it also depends on what passie seeds you are growing

TAYLOR, TX(Zone 8a)

ok, thanks. I soaked my seeds, but in hot tap water for 24 hours before planting. It's probably a try and try again thing, so I am not going to give up. I planted Passiflora Maypop, and Passiflora Blue in the biodome and Passiflora Alata in the soil-less mixture. Should they have already come up? I will give them another week and if they don't germinate, I will start over again. Thanks for your help.

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

no give theam all another 3 weeks or so i had some just come up after 8 weeks

TAYLOR, TX(Zone 8a)

Wow! ok, thanks so much Paul.
Louanne

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