African Violet Blue Owl and The MartianJ. Dates, Wasp

Good evening everyone,

I am searching for information and images of J. Dates Blue Owl (Wasp) and The Martian (Wasp). I have tried a google search and come up with next to nothing, not what I am looking for anyway. So I sure would appreciate any help I can find here.

Thanks all and Merry Christmas! :)

Elizabeth~

The Martian (Dates) THE MARTIAN dark blue Wasp flowers. Bustle foliage. Standard (User Database)
~ Of Course they are Vintage ~

Blue Owl (Dates) Light baby blue wasp flowers Medium to dark green dip top petals and sometimes busteld Semiminiature (User Database)

Thanks you so much! It is so gorgeous! :) I love the Wasp blossoms.

Blue Owl - Blue Owl (J. Dates) Single large light blue; Medium to dark green, slightly spooned, serrated. Standard
I also fount this on a Wasp sight about Blue Owl. I fount when I grew Blue Owl it was more Semi-miniature.
Your Well-come I like the Wasp too ! At one time I grew them all but now gave them away.
Not sure Jan do you have Blue Owl ??

Link you may enjoy
Wasp African Violets
http://www.metro-garden.com/node/37

Thanks again for the link! WOW! I am not new to AVs, but haven't had them for several years, but I am new to the Wasp and boy how I love them. I just saw on this website that Rhapsodie Fenja is a Wasp and I didn't know that. This is one that my daughter and I both had several years ago and lost. I have been in search of it ever since. Well, I should say that I have been going through all of the AVs at our local stores like Wal-Mart and Lowes searching for it. lol! I remember getting it at Wal-Mart though but that must have been 6 or 8 years ago. I had no idea that it was by Rhapsodie though and now maybe I can find it again since I have that bit of info. :) I think I will do a google search now. :)

Thank you again for your help, it is so much appreciated.

Elizabeth~

Sorry, ladies, but what is a Wasp?

Wasps! My favorites.I do have a leaf of blue owl,just waiting for ears to show up.Blue tail fly rooted and put up babies so fast.
I didn't know there was so many,Fire wasp,wow!

1gardengram,

Here ya go; :)

Wasp definition: Bloom type. Describes an African Violet flower that is a single, but on which the top two, smaller petals curl back.

Jannich, I love the Fire Wasp too! SO pretty. I also am waiting on leaves from BLUE OWL and BLUETAIL FLY. I can't wait to get babies.

I am also hunting for Rhapsodie Fenja so if anyone has it for trade or sale, please let me know. Or if you know of someone who has it. . . or leaves, I would be interested.

Thanks and Have a great day all!
Elizabeth~

Elizabeth Wasp are great ! Some of the Vendors like Bluebirds sell them some of the Vendors sell leaves Fay use to ? Nancy websight is selling leaves again the leaves start about $8.00 up and $20.00 for small started of some. Best way is to share and trade :))
I love Optimara's Rhapsodie line hope you can find you plant !
Yes Fire wasp is great ! The only one I have growing is Senk's Vespa Verde (D. Senks)
Love it :)) And many times on Ebay it goes $30.00 up and David sold it as high as $100.00 . I don't see David selling plants anymore I wonder why ??
Vespa Verde (D. Senks) It has white wasp blossoms variably edged in green.Variegated Foliage, Delicate Green-edged Wasp Blossoms "Vespa Verde" Vespa Verde blooms easily and its medium green semi-miniature occasionally-bustled foliage forms a nice rosette Semiminiature (User Database)
I've grown most of them but gave them all away. I know a lot of the people here on DG's have The Martin and Royal Wasp plants maybe leaves or babies to share. These plants are easy to progate and grow and bloom all the time !


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Good Luck hope you find it !
Rhapsodie Fenja (7499) 02/09/1991 (Holtkamp) Single lilac wasp/darker center, upper petals. Medium green, plain, ovate to round, hairy. Standard
Dates Wasp plants are all Vintage and his most times have Bustled Foliage. David Senk used the Dates Bustled for hybridizing his plants other Hybridizers that I know of have not .
I do enjoy the bustled foliage !

Here are a few links of Vendors selling Wasp plants and or Wasp leaves ~ You will find many many Wasp plants Fire Wasp at Violet Gallery Too ! Happy Wish listing and shopping !
Fay has Wasp leaves a few she has are
O. Little Crystal Hybridizer Holtkamp
Size Miniature
Reg No. 7350
Description ssd white wasp - med
Aeolian Wasp Hybridizer Dates
Size Small Standard
Reg No. ----
Description Pink, wasp, bustle.
Blue Owl Hybridizer Dates
Size Standard
Reg No. ----
Description Single, blue fluted, white stripe, wasp, dark.
Cool Hand Pink Hybridizer Dates
Size Standard
Reg No. ----
Description sgl bright pink wasp - dark
Royal Wasp Hybridizer Dates
Size lrg
Reg No. ----
Description sgl darkblue wasp - bustle
Fays Paisley Hybridizer Wagman
Size Semi
Reg No. --
Description sgl blue, red fantasy wasp - plain
I'm sure there's more she has hundreds of leaves Space Baby leaves also and her leaves are $1.00 for pkg. of two.
http://www.myviolets.net/faywagman/index.html

http://www.belislesviolethouse.com/Dates_violets.html

http://rainbowviolets.com/id18.html
Bluebird Greenhouse sellsWasp
http://www.bluebirdgreenhouse.com/
Violet Gallery Sells Wasp and they sell >
http://www.violetgallery.com/

OH MY GOSH! lol! Well, I knew it wasn't safe at all to visit these sites. I just placed an order for some Wasp leaves and a couple plants and a few supplies. :)

VT, thanks for the web links.

"Now, if I can just stay away from the other 4. . . at least for a day or two." she mumbles to herself. lol!

Thanks! (I think!)
E~

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Your well-come most of these sight have great Wasp and other plants /leaves for less than Ebay with less cost on shipping too !
Happy growing let us know how you make out !

tigit--Thank you for answering my question. I learn new things on this forum just about every time I look.

A couple more 'The Martian' pics....

I enjoyed growing The Martian...liked the wasp blossoms and bustled (compound) leaves. It grew to be a fairly large plant...unique and different...other worldly. Did well in natural light.

Wish I had a better photo showing the interesting leaves.

Great pictures with excellent detail.

Oh my yes The 'The Martian' is beautiful plant ! It's one of the easiets Wasp to progate and grow. It blooms forever in natural light.
If you do a search in AV forum you will see many pictures of The Martin and other Wasp and the foliage bustled back too !
I just fount this on Rob's violet barn
Question: Please tell me the definition of "stick-tite" and "wasp".
http://www.robsviolet.com/faq_page_7.htm#light distance
The only wasp I have growing now is ; Vespa Verde (D. Senks) It has white wasp blossoms variably edged in green.Variegated Foliage, Delicate Green-edged Wasp Blossoms "Vespa Verde" Vespa Verde blooms easily and its medium green semi-miniature occasionally-bustled foliage forms a nice rosette Semiminiature (User Database)


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Royal Wasp

Another The Martian (Dates) this plant went to live with Jan " Jannich "

Bustled leaf from Royal Wasp

Typsy Vespa (T. Moreno)
A joy to grow by leaf. Plant grows very large.
Gecko's Typsy Vespa (T. Moreno) Single purple, , variable horn petaled wasp dark green serrated, red back, bustled foliage. Standard Standard (User Database)

Another great Wasp to grow by leaf ! Gecko's Angelic Vespa
Gecko's Angelic Vespa (T. Moreno) Single light pink wasp Dark green serrated , heavily bustled , red back foliage Standard (User Database)

I grew many and gave all of the plants and leaves away. She's a very heavy bloomer !

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How about a Chimera Wasp plant :))
Lyon's Raspberries and Cream (9535) 12/17/2005 (Lyndon Lyon Greenhouses/P. Sorano) Single chimera fuchsia-pink frilled sticktite wasp/white stripe. Variegated dark green and ivory, wavy. Large
or
Nancy's Plum Freckles (N. Schoepflin) Single chimera lavender wasp/dark purple stripe, fantasy. Medium green, longifolia, quilted, hairy. Semiminiature
Which is a Sport from
Fay's Paisley (F. Wagman) Single blue wasp/red fantasy. Plain. Semiminiature
Picture from FC of Lyon's Raspberries and Cream

First two leaves I got in a trade my first large trade about 3 years ago I did not know what they were both backs bustled so nice I thought they were suckers :))
Spootnik (1498) 11/30/1964 (A. Dates) Single red-pink wasp. Medium green, spooned/bustle back. Semiminiature
FC picture