color change?

I recently aquired this cultivar: Kaneohe Sunburst, which is supposed to be a deep pink with a yellow center. I had been looking for this one a while and a plumeria grower here outside los angeles was selling these at the Los Angeles Exotic Plant show/sale last month.. plant blooms pure yellow! But it has been an incredibly hot summer... could that affect the color of the blooms? REason I ask is I have another pink flower Plumie that made a yellow flower this week... very odd.

this is the Plumeria Kanehoe Sunburst (supposedly)... think it's possible it will make pink flowers later on?

Bob,
A serious heat wave, cold spell or newly rooting cutting can bloom erroneously.
If it is well rooted and established and the weather is normal then you may have a misnamed plumie
It happens. Give it a few more bloom cycles before letting the jury back in.
I have a really nice Tillie Hughes that bloomed true and profusely all spring and summer
When the cold fron came through 2 weeks ago she gave me 2 totally white flowers
Purdy dang funny how these plants do what they want sometimes!! X^P

That is pretty startlingly different from what Kaneohe Sunburst is supposed to look like. I would be VERY surprised if that turned into a dark pink with orange plumeria with pointed petals. If you can still find the seller it might be good to have a talk with him.
Another way of identifying KS is that the branches are pretty thin and have somewhat protruding leaf nodes. If your plant does NOT have this characteristic then I think you have a mistake....

thanks for your help... I will probably have to approach the seller next time I see her. Sadly this happens too often when I buy palms, too...

Hey bob does the flower have a faint pink band on the back of her?
Also does she smell like a fruit aka peach?
and/or
If she doesn't have a pink band and she smells like banana yogurt or a slight hint of lemons it may be the mellowyellow i have in my backyard..
Mine was almost destroyed by Hurricane wilma and i been looking for another one around the local area's but it seems the tree is getting harder to find..

Hi Bob, that is a lovely yellow hybrid, but I agree with Hetty that it won't change. Sometimes, colors are paler and blooms are smaller in colder weather. Heat brings red out in general, but given where you are and the current climate, it won't change. KS is pictured below. The picture was taken at C-Stars Nursery. C-Stars Nursery is a wholesale nursery by you, and they have lots of one-gallon K. Sunburst. You might go there and see if they will sell you one. They'll probably charge you $15 for a one-gallon. They are at: C Stars Nursery 17654 South Normandie Ave. Gardena, CA 90248 (310) 327-8869

Well, it's not that close to you, but it's within driving distance: http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?newaddr=&taddr=17654+South+Normandie+Ave.&csz=Tarzana%2C+CA&country=us&tcsz=gardena&tcountry=us You might call them first to see if they will sell retail to you. Otherwise, I can highly recommend Florida Colors Nursery if you want to order a grafted one: http://www.floridacolors.com

I don't really have more room for Plumerias... but I wouldn't mind changing this out for another. Those plants in the photo look exactly like the flowers on the label this plant came in.. It was not flowering at the time I bought it (only a month ago) but it had lots of little buds. These buds do have pink stripes on them and there is some pink to the outside of the flowers. The pink buds sure looked like they were gonna bloom pink... oh well.

Clare, why don't the plants pictured above have any leaves? Do the nurseries remove them for some reason?
Thanks, alice

Alice, leaves are always removed before cuttings are rooted. They would yellow and fall off anyway as there are no roots to sustain them. These are cuttings which are rooting in their warehouses, and when they are rooted and have leaves, they will be shipped to nurseries for sale.

Interesting, I would have assumed that letting them bloom would sap the strength needed to build good roots but, judging from that picture, I guess not. alice

Here is Tillie Hughes on a normal bloom

Here she is Stressed after a cold snap with a lot of rain
Same plant!!

Alice, yes, you are right. Letting them bloom does, in fact, take energy away from the rooting process, and flowering does take a lot of energy. This is why some people say that the inflo should be cut off during the rooting process. I will cut off the inflo only if I see that the cutting is struggling to root. I did this with a couple of Singapore cuttings this summer. However, cuttings can still root and flower at the same time, but the rooting process is slower. I think the wholesale nurseries want to leave the inflo's on to make the plants more desireable and saleable.

Interesting, Michael! Those look like two different plants! I don't think this is the case with PalmBob's though. I think you are right that his is a misnamed plumie.

I was quite surprised
I saw it and said 'Who put that there? lol!!
I thought maybe a white blew over to it or something.
But sure enough it was attached and the label said Tillie Hughes LOL!!
I have about 15 inflos right now and we are getting cold nights
This should prove to be rather interesting

I was quite surprised
I saw it and said 'Who put that there? lol!!
I thought maybe a white blew over to it or something.
But sure enough it was attached and the label said Tillie Hughes LOL!!
I have about 15 inflos right now and we are getting cold nights
This should prove to be rather interesting

Yeah, I agree it will be interesting. Have you moved them to your basement now under lights?

I decided against putting up a greenhouse this year. It's too much of a hassle and expense. I have about ten seedlings and another 20 or so with inflo's. I'll have to cross my fingers that it stays warm enough for them to continue to develop the inflo's. I may try to pick up a cheap mini-greenhouse or two at Harbor Freight Tools parking lot sale next weekend. Those should retain some heat. For now, I have a couple of heat pads in a mini-greenhouse with my one-gallons.


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Im not ready to bring em in yet
I still need to make room in the basement
Ive been converting most of it into a bedroom / study for son #2
The plumies will be throughout the house this year. EGADS!!

Clare i am currently trying 3 things that might beat old man winter at his own game..
I will let you know the results when i collect more data...
I don't want to give you bad info right now..
If my projects work i may try it to see if it kills rust too along with many bugs..
I will explain later :)
I need more time to test since it is still hot here..
The problem is not the temps it is the intensity of the sunlight thats all i am going to say :)
I also have a project that may help you peeps that are bringing your plumies in a greenhouse or basement..

and I thought I was the only one up at this hour. LOL

....not anymore i am off to bed working late stinks..
:)

Sounds good, Robert! We'll wait with anticipation!

WOOT!!
ANOTHER MAD SCIENTIST!!

Exactly what I was invisioning!!! LOL

Clare, where are you in SoCal?

I'll send you an email:-)

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